PS2 -> ADB Success

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Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: alanh on October 01, 2007, 02:20:38 PM
I've got a NeXTCube Turbo with an ADB Soundbox.

Now, I've also got a Belkin ADB->PS2 converter, but unfortunately the mouse conversion doesn't work nicely with my new shiny USB optical mouse.

Turns out that the folks over at www.geethree.com also make a PS2 to ADB adapter that does indeed work with new Microsoft Optical IntelliMice!!!

Yeah, so now I've got a PS2 keyboard and optical USB/PS2 mouse hooked up to my NeXTCube Turbo.

Time to put the non-ADB keyboard/mouse on the shelf for problem situations.

Thought others might like to know about this GeeThree device.
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: helf on October 01, 2007, 02:42:06 PM
aaaaaaa!!!!!! YAY! I've been dying to use an optical mouse with my NeXT! my ball mice get annoying! Thanks :D
Title: Re: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: nextchef on October 01, 2007, 02:57:35 PM
Quote from: "alanh"I've got a NeXTCube Turbo with an ADB Soundbox.

Now, I've also got a Belkin ADB->PS2 converter, but unfortunately the mouse conversion doesn't work nicely with my new shiny USB optical mouse.

Turns out that the folks over at www.geethree.com also make a PS2 to ADB adapter that does indeed work with new Microsoft Optical IntelliMice!!!

Yeah, so now I've got a PS2 keyboard and optical USB/PS2 mouse hooked up to my NeXTCube Turbo.

Time to put the non-ADB keyboard/mouse on the shelf for problem situations.

Thought others might like to know about this GeeThree device.

So how are you actually hooking these things up?  Is the keyboard using the belkin and the mouse using the geethree adapter, and how are you hooking up both to the NeXT?
Can this adapter be hooked up to a NeXT ADB keyboard directly just for the mouse?

Chef
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: alanh on October 01, 2007, 02:59:19 PM
The Belkin PS2->ADB adapter has two ADB ports. One for the input into the SoundBox, and the other as a passthrough for another ADB device. Just so happens I can plug the GeeThree device into that and leave the PS2 mouse connection on the Belkin disconnected.
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: helf on October 01, 2007, 03:06:59 PM
hm, yeah, i wonder if this will work ok running through my NeXT keyboard. Guess I will find out in a week or two
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: alanh on October 01, 2007, 03:20:34 PM
I guess it should work through the NeXT ADB keyboard, as it should look like just another ADB Mouse to the actual keyboard itself.
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: nextchef on October 01, 2007, 03:30:58 PM
Quote from: "alanh"The Belkin PS2->ADB adapter has two ADB ports. One for the input into the SoundBox, and the other as a passthrough for another ADB device. Just so happens I can plug the GeeThree device into that and leave the PS2 mouse connection on the Belkin disconnected.

What is the Belkin part number for the adapter you used?  Is it the Belkin F1D080 created for the OmniView KVM's?

Thanks,

Chef
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: alanh on October 01, 2007, 03:32:39 PM
Yes, F1D080 is the one.
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: nextchef on October 02, 2007, 01:21:50 PM
Damn,

New I should have asked this by PM, as now everyone is bidding on the one and only adapter currently on ebay.

Live and learn  :wink:

Chef
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: helf on October 02, 2007, 01:34:13 PM
lol... I've done that... :) sucks, usually
Title: Re: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: matthewmac66 on October 02, 2007, 03:44:41 PM
Quote from: "alanh"I've got a NeXTCube Turbo with an ADB Soundbox.

Now, I've also got a Belkin ADB->PS2 converter, but unfortunately the mouse conversion doesn't work nicely with my new shiny USB optical mouse.

Turns out that the folks over at www.geethree.com also make a PS2 to ADB adapter that does indeed work with new Microsoft Optical IntelliMice!!!

Yeah, so now I've got a PS2 keyboard and optical USB/PS2 mouse hooked up to my NeXTCube Turbo.

Time to put the non-ADB keyboard/mouse on the shelf for problem situations.

Thought others might like to know about this GeeThree device.

Thanks for the great tip  8)
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: helf on October 09, 2007, 11:01:24 AM
Just ordered the Geethree PS/2 adapter! I hope this works :D Thanks again, alanh. I've been dying to use an optical mouse with my NeXT. If it does work well, I'm going to buy two or 3 more adapters and store them.
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: pentium on October 09, 2007, 04:15:16 PM
anyone going to try to put an optical mouse INSIDE a dead NeXT mouse?  :)
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: alanh on October 09, 2007, 04:52:00 PM
I'm using a Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical 1.1 USB/PS2 just like the one here.....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180166784782&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008

Make sure you are using Microsoft IntelliMice!
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: helf on October 09, 2007, 06:18:15 PM
are the intellimice the only ones that work right? If so, I'll have to buy a black one. All I have are logitech optical mice.
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: alanh on October 10, 2007, 02:27:30 AM
It certainly doesn't work with all mice as I tried a really cheap one and it didn't work.

It does say on the box....

Compatible with any standard PS/2 pointing device - Cordless mice, Trackballs and Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer.

So it explicitly mentions the IntelliMouse and that's what I'm using.

So others may work, but the mileage may vary.
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: helf on October 10, 2007, 08:37:31 AM
Oh, OK. I'll let you know what mice work :)
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: helf on October 12, 2007, 09:17:26 AM
uuuumm... OK, dumb question. Do Non-ADB NeXT systems have a different connector from standard ADB or? Me thinks my NeXT is non-adb and i never noticed. :P
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: alanh on October 12, 2007, 09:21:44 AM
Yes, non-ADB is a completely different pinout than ADB.

Looking at your equipment, the n4000a is definitely non-ADB.

Ooops.

You need an n4000b or an ADB soundbox to get ADB ports.
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: helf on October 12, 2007, 09:27:38 AM
ha, thought so. Teach me to not double check my own hardware. oh well, I should be getting an ADB Turbo color soon :) So it wasn't wasted money.

Thanks :P
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: alanh on October 12, 2007, 09:29:09 AM
From nextchef I hope :-)

me too.
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: helf on October 12, 2007, 09:30:04 AM
yes, hopefully. Whenever he gets back to me :) I may have to start pestering him.
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: nextchef on October 12, 2007, 11:04:37 AM
Quote from: "helf"yes, hopefully. Whenever he gets back to me :) I may have to start pestering him.

Hey now ..... I heard that.  :wink:

Chef
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: jheis on November 17, 2007, 11:30:32 PM
Not sure if this really fits in this thread, but I was futzing around with my home theater this afternoon & noticed that  ADB cables are the same as standard "S Video" cables - which you can pick up for next to nothing at any electronics store.
James
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: helf on November 18, 2007, 05:45:25 PM
yeah, I've routinely used svideo cables as ADB extensions cables.. :)
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: SVPirate on April 09, 2008, 06:01:16 PM
Can I just throw a random 2 cents in here...

not all USB Moice work on PS/2. cheap and USB-only mice (including but not limited to Apple's USB mice) will *not* work via  a USB->PS/2 adapter.

The crack is that the USB->PS/2 adapters are a cheat. All they do is direct the PS/2 signal from the contacts in the USB plug to the correct pins on a PS/2 plug. The mice that work on PS/2 and USB auto-detect what bus standard they are plugged into and use the according language, they just send the data down the USB wires. The reason MS Intellimouse mice work so well is they are fully PS/2 and USB compliant. Cheap USB mice might not be, even if they support PS/2 they may not support it correctly, hell most cheap mice don't support USB standards 100% right ;)

Just thought I'd mention that.
Title: PS2 -> ADB Success
Post by: alanh on November 02, 2008, 03:10:15 PM
Well,

If anyone is looking for one of the Belkin PS2->ADB converters there's six on ebay at the moment from this guy.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200267075769&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37.l1313%26satitle%3D200267075769%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1

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