PLI SuperFloppy 2.8

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Title: PLI SuperFloppy 2.8
Post by: tomaz on October 09, 2007, 01:37:41 PM
I've bought one of these on eBay and just recently tried connecting it up. Unfortunately, the seller did not provide the 7.5V DC power supply and is now not responding to my enquiries.

1) Does anyone have a spare power supply to sell?
2) Does anyone know the specs for the power supply (in my experience "7.5V DC" rarely means 7.5V DC)

Thanks.
Title: PLI SuperFloppy 2.8
Post by: jheis on October 09, 2007, 02:40:56 PM
Tomaz:
I don't have a spare, but the power supply appears to be generic.  
The brand name on mine is "Sino-American," model number A40717, Class 2 transformer, Input: 120V 60 Hz 35W (probably wouldn't do you much good in the UK), Output: 7.5VDC 1.5A.
James
Title: PLI SuperFloppy 2.8
Post by: tomaz on October 26, 2007, 03:19:58 AM
Thanks for this tip! It was as helpful as I could hope to get.

I wrote to Sino-American, and got the following replies (I first asked them to quote me for a device, or to give me the name of a European distributor; then advised them that I only wanted one; then that I was OK with an American version if there was no European version etc.)

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Thank you for your interest in Sino-American. Regarding your inquiry for A40717, to help us making the quotation, we would appreciate that you could provide us the estimated purchasing quantity per annum and per shipment for this item. As for 220V version, please be noted that it is not CE safety approved. The application for safety approvals of this item will be on customer's own expense.

Best regards,
SINO-AMERICAN ELECTRONIC CO., LTD.

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I apology for my late reply.

Our minimum quantity is 1000pcs per order. Have checked through our record and found our distributors in Europe no stock of A40717, so am really sorry not being able to help.

Best regards,
SINO-AMERICAN ELECTRONIC CO., LTD.

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As mentioned, there is no safety approvals obtained for UK and EU version, so no product available in the market.  Am sorry.

Best regards,
SINO-AMERICAN ELECTRONIC CO., LTD.

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To be frankly, A40717 is an old and not popular model, seldom purchased by our customer. The last selling record in our system was in 2001, so it is not available in the market either. Am sorry not being able to help.

Best regards,
SINO-AMERICAN ELECTRONIC CO., LTD.

I would much appreciate any ideas how to get my hands on one of these or on its specs (detailed enough to be able to source a substitute - I'm reluctant to connect a generic 7.5V DC power supply as I've tested the voltage on many "7.5V DC" power supplies and it's rarely been 7.5V DC).
Title: PLI SuperFloppy 2.8
Post by: jheis on October 26, 2007, 11:08:27 AM
tomaz:
I just checked and the actual output voltage from my power supply is 10.67 volts.  Hope that helps.
James

Just for grins I checked again (late evening) & I'm reading 10.89 v - so, exact voltage doesn't appear to be too critical.
Title: PLI SuperFloppy 2.8
Post by: nextime on October 28, 2007, 05:13:19 PM
If I remember correctly a power supply from the original apple powerbook will work,  140, 170, etc.

nextime
Title: PLI SuperFloppy 2.8
Post by: pitz on January 30, 2008, 07:21:17 PM
I remember getting mine to work using a generic wall wart from Radio Shack (the one with the adjustable voltage).  However, I cannot remember what voltage I set it to and which of those L-shaped connectors (IIRC, Radio Shack coded them from "A" - "Z") I used.
Title: PLI SuperFloppy 2.8
Post by: emond on January 24, 2009, 11:34:56 AM
Interesting...

I have also one PLI SuperFloppy 2.8 without supply power ...

I look for one work in 220V (European).

JB
Title: PLI SuperFloppy 2.8
Post by: emond on January 28, 2009, 04:48:54 PM
I test with lab power supply (7.5V) and the supply give max 2.4A !

At boot I have this message :

PLI :      SUPER FLOPPY Rev 1.50 as sd1 at sc0 target 1 lun 0
sd1: UNIT ATTENTION
            Disk Label: Install_3.2
            Disk Capacity 1MB, Device Block 512 bytes
            Disk is Write Protected


Is impossible to boot on this floppy (an other too), my PLI Super Floppy is Broken ?

I use boot sd(0,5,0) but no reponse :(

The message is ~good, but why sd1: UNIT ATTENTION ???

See pictures :
http%3A%2F%2Fjbemond.free.fr%2FNeXT%2FCubeEtPLI_SF.jpg
another new toys for me (yes another new ISPW cube 68040/25MHz 64MB, 2GB HD) :roll:

http%3A%2F%2Fjbemond.free.fr%2FNeXT%2FPLI_UNIT_ATTENTION.jpg
The PLI death bad message !!!
JB
Title: PLI SuperFloppy 2.8
Post by: Andreas on January 29, 2009, 04:07:52 AM
Quote from: "emond"
sd1: UNIT ATTENTION
            Disk Label: Install_3.2
            Disk Capacity 1MB, Device Block 512 bytes
            Disk is Write Protected[/i]

I use boot sd(0,5,0) but no reponse :(

You should try to boot your second device (=PLI) with:
sd(1,0,0)

AFAIK the bootcommand doesn't use the SCSI-ID's, they count only from (0,0,0) for the first device to the next ones...
Title: PLI SuperFloppy 2.8
Post by: emond on January 29, 2009, 04:44:55 AM
Yes the bfd dont work because is only for "real' floppy disk connected to floppy port on mother board.

I test to boot on : boot sd sd(1,5,0)
I think is not work too :(

I make some new tests next night ...
Title: PLI SuperFloppy 2.8
Post by: Andreas on January 30, 2009, 02:29:08 AM
Quote from: "emond"
I test to boot on : boot sd sd(1,5,0)
I think is not work too :(

emond, the fiver is wrong, please use (in your case with the PLI as second device)
sd(1,0,0)
Title: PLI SuperFloppy 2.8
Post by: emond on January 31, 2009, 03:46:50 PM
Yes your are the best !

bsd(1,0,0) is the good boot command on le floppy !

other question : how eject floppy ? (in monitor ROM mode ?)

thank's !  :D
Title: rtfolh
Post by: cubist on February 02, 2009, 06:52:41 PM
Quote from: "emond"
other question : how eject floppy ? (in monitor ROM mode ?)

Type '?' at the prompt.  I believe there is an eject command.
Title: Re: rtfolh
Post by: emond on February 03, 2009, 09:24:38 AM
Quote from: "cubist"
Quote from: "emond"
other question : how eject floppy ? (in monitor ROM mode ?)

Type '?' at the prompt.  I believe there is an eject command.

No, I know this command [ef], but she not work with PLI !!!
Because "PLI SuperFloppy 2.8" is not a simple Floppy drive... is a Floppy Drive under SCSI controler  :?
Title: Re: rtfolh
Post by: cubist on February 03, 2009, 09:40:30 AM
Quote from: "emond"No, I know this command [ej], but she not work with PLI !!!
Because "PLI SuperFloppy 2.8" is not a simple Floppy drive... is a Floppy Drive under SCSI controler  :?
SCSI supports media eject.  My PLI is in storage so I can't test.  But this is beginning to sound like bad hardware.
Title: PLI SuperFloppy 2.8
Post by: pitz on February 03, 2009, 08:34:48 PM
Quote from: "emond"
other question : how eject floppy ? (in monitor ROM mode ?)

I don't think it's possible from the monitor ROM.  SCSI does have an eject command, but I don't think there's a way to send an arbitrary SCSI command from the monitor ROM.
There should still be the manual "paper clip hole" method of ejecting the diskette. :wink:
Title: PLI SuperFloppy 2.8
Post by: Rob Blessin Black Hole on August 06, 2016, 03:37:42 AM
So any recommendations on a European adapter for the PLI Super Floppy  a customer in Germany.... the adapter  one I sent is generic and works in US... reviving old thread... looks like a working solution was found but if anyone can confirm that would be great .
Title: PLI SuperFloppy 2.8
Post by: pentium on August 07, 2016, 12:29:57 AM
Looking at a photo it shouldn't hurt to find a 240v AC to 7.5v DC wallwart and call it good. Just verify that the socket shell is negative before you go plugging things in.

http%3A%2F%2Fjbemond.free.fr%2FNeXT%2FIrcam-Ariel_and_Co%2FPLI-SuperFloppy-2.8_n2.jpg
Title: PLI SuperFloppy 2.8
Post by: Rob Blessin Black Hole on August 07, 2016, 03:49:28 PM
Thanks I forward info to them.

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