SafetyNet

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Title: SafetyNet
Post by: helf on October 25, 2007, 12:12:07 PM
Anyone have any experiences with it? It's a GUI'd backup program. Rob sells copies on his website at http://www.blackholeinc.com/catalog/software/Software/Network/SafetyNet.shtml

Just wondering if it was worth the price... Kind of expensive. I won't be able to get it for a while... :\
Title: Re: SafetyNet
Post by: Andreas on October 25, 2007, 01:24:17 PM
Quote from: "helf"Anyone have any experiences with it? It's a GUI'd backup program. Rob sells copies on his website at http://www.blackholeinc.com/catalog/software/Software/Network/SafetyNet.shtml

Just wondering if it was worth the price... Kind of expensive. I won't be able to get it for a while... :\

Safetynet works fine, but i don't see the sense for this backup-solution right now 2007. The Tapedrives are deadly slow and copying one hd to another one seems to be faster. (or using tar)
Title: SafetyNet
Post by: helf on October 25, 2007, 01:33:51 PM
well, it'd just be a periodical backup. I don't care if it took all night :P I'd do it twice a month or so.
Title: SafetyNet
Post by: nextchef on October 25, 2007, 01:46:54 PM
Just get an external hard drive and run a tar or dump out to it when you want.  You could even use the dump/restore procedure suggested by Andreas from the cloning thread so that your "backup" would be a disk you could boot off of and use if needed.  I am not versed enough in Dump/Restore to know if you would have to wipe the drive before performing each "backup", but I am sure others in here can chime in about it.

To my mind this is a lot more useful than a tape backup, but to each his own.
Title: SafetyNet
Post by: helf on October 25, 2007, 02:02:30 PM
hm... I'll give that a shot. Be a cheaper method at least :) Thanks
Title: SafetyNet
Post by: helf on October 16, 2008, 02:56:49 PM
Anyone know if Rob is still selling that app? i was given a tape drive.. figured I might as well use it:P I guess I can just use tar, but this would be nicer.
Title: SafetyNet
Post by: Nitro on October 16, 2008, 06:40:32 PM
Quote from: "helf"Anyone know if Rob is still selling that app? i was given a tape drive.. figured I might as well use it:P I guess I can just use tar, but this would be nicer.
I don't know if Rob is still selling the app but there's a demo available for download.

http://www.systemix.com/safetynet.htm
Title: Re: SafetyNet
Post by: paolo.bertolo on April 08, 2025, 07:01:16 AM
Hi All,
Reviving this almost 20-year old thread...
Does anyone have any clue about current availability of this software?
Couldn't find any demo or working installer.
I have an HP SureStore DDS unit, would be nice to control it in a more "user friendly" way than *tar...
Title: Re: SafetyNet
Post by: nuss on April 08, 2025, 08:03:47 AM
Should be on the Peanuts CDROMs Peanuts/NeXTSTEP/Commercial/tools/archiver/SafetyNet.2.6beta.NIHS.b.tar.gz
Title: Re: SafetyNet
Post by: paolo.bertolo on April 08, 2025, 10:54:27 AM
Quote from: nuss on April 08, 2025, 08:03:47 AMShould be on the Peanuts CDROMs Peanuts/NeXTSTEP/Commercial/tools/archiver/SafetyNet.2.6beta.NIHS.b.tar.gz

I confirm the beta is there. Any clue on how to get a license?
Title: Re: SafetyNet
Post by: spitfire on April 08, 2025, 02:26:56 PM
Quote from: paolo.bertolo on April 08, 2025, 10:54:27 AMI confirm the beta is there. Any clue on how to get a license?

Time for some reverse engineering. 1990's era software protection wasn't that special.
Title: Re: SafetyNet
Post by: spitfire on April 09, 2025, 12:06:31 PM
A screenshot just for reference: https://www.levenez.com/NeXTSTEP/SafetyNet.jpg

From Eric Levenez' site: https://www.levenez.com/NeXTSTEP/meApps.html
Title: Re: SafetyNet
Post by: paolo.bertolo on April 10, 2025, 10:27:28 PM
The beta doesn't seem to work properly, it can't detect any back up device (in my case: DDS, MO or HD) even though they are connected and working...
Title: Re: SafetyNet
Post by: spitfire on April 30, 2025, 10:00:50 PM
Looks like there's a copy of safetynet with license string

https://fsck.technology/software/NeXT/NeXTSTEP%20Applications/SafetyNet%202.3%20NeXTSTEP/

SafetyNet2.3_003136_2ECJAVH8F21GMYW6R.img


Does that license string work?
Title: Re: SafetyNet
Post by: Andreas on May 02, 2025, 01:45:16 AM
Quote from: spitfire on April 30, 2025, 10:00:50 PMDoes that license string work?
I'm realy shure, because its my licence. Generaly disk images with size 1.44 MB are made on a PC with vgacopy (you can read until 99 times for a weak sector, you can use different drives for adding missing sectors), disk images with 2.88 MB are made on NeXT with disccopy II, wich adds a header to the images that may have to stripped for use with other tools.
Title: Re: SafetyNet
Post by: paolo.bertolo on May 02, 2025, 10:16:50 AM
The linked image throws an error during the installation. Checksum, if I am not mistaken.
Can't confirm right now, though, as all my stuff is currently being sea-shipped to another country.
Title: Re: SafetyNet
Post by: Andreas on May 04, 2025, 11:37:16 PM
Quote from: paolo.bertolo on May 02, 2025, 10:16:50 AMThe linked image throws an error during the installation. Checksum, if I am not mistaken.
Can't confirm right now, though, as all my stuff is currently being sea-shipped to another country.
The image is too short - i have testet another version of safetynet and the floppy stops on the same sector. Maybe its some kind of a copy protection, i have installed it from the original disks without problems. I will try to sqash the app.
Title: Re: SafetyNet
Post by: Andreas on May 05, 2025, 12:14:51 PM
Can anyone try this squashed version of SafetyNet 2.3? If it works - can anyone download this to the NeXTfiles?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VC9plWtgHpgB4_7BnSygcjoZ41X1K9qI/view?usp=drive_link (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VC9plWtgHpgB4_7BnSygcjoZ41X1K9qI/view?usp=drive_link)
Title: Re: SafetyNet
Post by: paolo.bertolo on August 25, 2025, 02:38:40 PM
I would be glad to test it, thanks. I am surely missing something, but... what kind of extension is "sqfold"?
Title: Re: SafetyNet
Post by: user217 on August 25, 2025, 02:51:17 PM
Quote from: paolo.bertolo on August 25, 2025, 02:38:40 PMI would be glad to test it, thanks. I am surely missing something, but... what kind of extension is "sqfold"?

A .squfold is a folder compressed with Squash. (This took more sleuthing than I expected.)

http://www.kevra.org/TheBestOfNext/ThirdPartyProducts/ThirdPartySoftware/Utilities/Squash/Squash.html
https://fsck.technology/software/NeXT/NeXTSTEP%20Applications/Squash%201.0G%20NeXTSTEP/

I believe it's NeXT-only and also 68k-only, which is why it only exists in the 1988-93 layer of the fossil record of the Internet. It came with a redistributable unarchiver called UnSquashOnly but that was similarly endemic to classic NeXT.
Title: Re: SafetyNet
Post by: user341 on August 25, 2025, 02:54:12 PM
Quote from: Rhetorica on August 25, 2025, 02:51:17 PMA .squfold is a folder compressed with Squash. (This took more sleuthing than I expected.)

http://www.kevra.org/TheBestOfNext/ThirdPartyProducts/ThirdPartySoftware/Utilities/Squash/Squash.html
https://fsck.technology/software/NeXT/NeXTSTEP%20Applications/Squash%201.0G%20NeXTSTEP/

I believe it's NeXT-only and also 68k-only, which is why it only exists in the 1988-93 layer of the fossil record of the Internet. It came with a redistributable unarchiver called UnSquashOnly but that was similarly endemic to classic NeXT.

I used to use this and I could swear it was fat binary.
Title: Re: SafetyNet
Post by: user341 on August 25, 2025, 03:02:47 PM
Sorry my bad. I didnt use Squash.app. I thought you were referring to SafetyNet
Title: Re: SafetyNet
Post by: paolo.bertolo on August 27, 2025, 12:02:59 AM
Quote from: Andreas on May 05, 2025, 12:14:51 PMCan anyone try this squashed version of SafetyNet 2.3? If it works - can anyone download this to the NeXTfiles?

I can now confirm it works, thanks!

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