Im going to university and theres this prof. that wants to give me his workign next slab on the condition that i transfer all of his documents form the comptuer to another machine. so i have crossover cable, a macbook pro with vista and leopard. how should i do this? i havent physically come in contact with a next computer in my life and have never been succesful in getting it working on a VM. so i ask you guys for help as soon as possible. what i was thinkign of doing was once i figure out how to get static ip addressing workign and then pray that somehow i woudl figure out how to get appleshare or SMB working. alternatley there is FTP installed on next comptuers right? possibly use that and a client side ftp program on my macbook? im really nto sure how this works all i know is that gettign dhcp workign is near impossible and hte guides here all talk about getting online not gettign filesharing working so i figure its either easy or impossible.
thanks alot btw. yorue gonna make someones dream come true if all goes well
Quote from: "Fagutish"Im going to university and theres this prof. that wants to give me his workign next slab on the condition that i transfer all of his documents form the comptuer to another machine. so i have crossover cable, a macbook pro with vista and leopard. how should i do this? i havent physically come in contact with a next computer in my life and have never been succesful in getting it working on a VM. so i ask you guys for help as soon as possible. what i was thinkign of doing was once i figure out how to get static ip addressing workign and then pray that somehow i woudl figure out how to get appleshare or SMB working. alternatley there is FTP installed on next comptuers right? possibly use that and a client side ftp program on my macbook? im really nto sure how this works all i know is that gettign dhcp workign is near impossible and hte guides here all talk about getting online not gettign filesharing working so i figure its either easy or impossible.
thanks alot btw. yorue gonna make someones dream come true if all goes well
Well, on the laptop, you should be able to set up FTP via System Preferences, but I only have Tiger, so I don't know. By the way, for static IP addressing on NS/OS:
QuoteGo into NetInfo Manager, and remove the 'serves' property from /machines/broadcasthost. Unless you actually do have a networked NetInfo domain running where you are, this will just cause an annoying timeout in the boot process.
Skip HostManager, just log in as root and use your favourite text editor to change the entries in /etc/hostconfig to do what your network requires. Again, this is all from memory but you need at least to set HOSTNAME, INETADDR, ROUTER, IPNETMASK and IPBROADCAST. You might see an entry like:
ROUTER=-ROUTED-
but it's better to hard-code the router addr in here, in case some modern routeds don't speak NeXT's language. Make sure to use an unused IP address for INETADDR.
It's probably not a bad idea to put an entry for the system's own public IP into netinfo's /machines/ dir; if you're not comfortable doing that with NetInfo manager then read the man page for niload to see how to use a UNIX hosts file to populate netinfo.
Erm, that should be it. hostconfig is sourced by the rc scripts so you need to reboot for that lot to stick, but then you ought to be good to go.
For DNS on NS/OS:
In /etc/resolv.conf:
hostresorder local bind
nameserver (whatever router or nameserver you are given, IP address ONLY)
nameserver (ditto, but you don't [i]have[/i] to have two)If you cannot get networking to work with hostnames after that, try hardcoding the Mac's hostname and IP address in /etc/hosts:
(Mac's IP address) (Mac's hostname)Hope this helps,
Eric
yeah thanks for the help but its not very useful right now since the mouse doesnt work in the vertical direction i couldnt really do what you said. its ADB (i think it is, its circular ports) I have two mice and they both are doing the same thing. so maybe its the keyboard? cuase its all daisy chained im not sure anyone know how to fix this? is it a software issue? help would be appreciated.
oh and what are hte chances of opening up the slab and taking the hard disk out and plugging it into a windows box? (that doesnt have SCSI)
Well, the FS is UFS, so if you had a scsi controller in a PC, you could pop it in and boot up a linux live CD and copy files off that way...
Quote from: "helf"Well, the FS is UFS, so if you had a scsi controller in a PC, you could pop it in and boot up a linux live CD and copy files off that way...
Well, Linux has trouble with UFS. Especially NeXT's UFS, and I cannot see files on loop-device mounted disk images.
Eric
oh... Don't listen to me then! ;)
...what about one of the BSD live CDs?
Quote from: "helf"oh... Don't listen to me then! ;)
...what about one of the BSD live CDs?
It
should work, but I've never tried. The various BSDs are all different in their native UFS implementations, so they may also be in support. I recall hearing somewhere that you can mount NS/OS partitions under NetBSD, but you really shouldn't trust my memory.
Eric
I take it is was not [or is not] already hooked up to a network? I forget what default IP space NS 3 gets setup up in [192.168 something or other] in theory if you can turn it on and match you Mac to the Next default IP space you should be able to telnet or ftp into [as long as you know the user password] and just deal with it from the command line.
Regarding the mouse issue make sure you check and clean the connector base on the keyboard.
Otherwise I got nothing, good luck!
-Mike
okay its not hooked up to a network i was thinkign of pluggign a crossover cable to get that but i dont knwo the password for the user profile so this is gonna be a little hard. about the mouse keyboard thing. its ADB right? so would i be able to daisy chain a random apple mouse i might be able to find? also what exactly am i suppposed to clean on the keyboard?
He means to make sure the adb plug is clean. i dunno if an Apple mouse will work.
I meant the mouse connector on the keyboard, just unplug the mouse and take look to make sure there is not dust or grit preventing one of the pins from making contact.
If you do not have a user password or the root password then you are going to have to boot into single user mode and reset the root password. That is assuming it boots up to a login prompt and not automatically to the "me" user. [Which it might]
If you search forum you'll find out how to boot into single user mode everyone ends having to do at least once on old Unix Workstations so it is good to know how.
-Mike
Quote from: "Fagutish"yeah thanks for the help but its not very useful right now since the mouse doesnt work in the vertical direction i couldnt really do what you said. its ADB (i think it is, its circular ports) I have two mice and they both are doing the same thing. so maybe its the keyboard?
If you can't resolve the mouse issue, there isn't really much point in acquiring this machine, even if it's free, is there? So start there. By 'circular port' I'll guess you mean mini-DIN. Both ADB and non-ADB use mini-DIN. ADB has four pins, the other eight. If it really is a turbo slab, these should only be ADB. If keyboard input works but mouse doesn't, the slab is probably fine. The 'B' in ADB is for BUS and keyboard and mouse share it. Problem could be in the keyboard. Keyboard has two ADB sockets, put the mouse in the other and see what happens.
I dont remember.. but I think you can navigate a bit with out the mouse by tabbing ?
anyway.. a simple way may be to get a scsi zip drive and then just copy everything via the terminal?
There should be a bunch of zip drives in a university setting.. the only hard part might be the cable. its scsi 1 on the zip drive and then that other interface on the next. :)