NS / OS release history?

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Title: NS / OS release history?
Post by: dravier on May 05, 2008, 11:44:20 AM
With the lovely images of NS 0.8 and 0.94 I got to wondering what the first release of NS was.  I hit Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nextstep) for a quick look-see, but it failed to give any serious answers.  On Wikipedia their chart begins with 0.8 and notes 0.9 as the first available release.  But these things came to mind:
1.)  is 0.8 the earliest release we've seen?  were any previousl versions leaked / found by now?
2.)  was 0.9 the version NeXT shipped with in 1988 at it's release (vs 1.0 or later)?

As a tag along I'd be curious as to media variants throught the versions (MO, floppy, CD) in relevance to availablity to the end-user.
Title: NS / OS release history?
Post by: pentium on May 05, 2008, 01:19:15 PM
Go and ask JasonFC. He still has a mountain of MO media that needs to get imaged. Who knows what's on those disks.
Title: NS / OS release history?
Post by: gtnicol on May 05, 2008, 01:32:58 PM
From what I've seen of 0.8, I don't think it was ready for primetime.

The 0.9 version I have is actually 0.94, and the 1.0 version is 1.0.68.
Title: NS / OS release history?
Post by: dravier on May 05, 2008, 02:04:28 PM
So 0.8 was basically a late beta?  With 0.9(0.94) being a pretty stable / polished beta?  

I find the developement of OS's interesting.  I have a few BeOS (another fav OS of mine) releases and it's interesting to see the changes over time.  

Thanks... any others out there with info?
Title: NS / OS release history?
Post by: brams on May 06, 2008, 11:16:00 AM
Quote from: "dravier"I have a few BeOS (another fav OS of mine) releases and it's interesting to see the changes over time.  

Thanks... any others out there with info?

I find trying to get any background info on old developer versions of BeOS very confusing, I put an early boot rom on my BeBox last time I was home and virtually killed it, it took me two days to get it going again.
Title: NS / OS release history?
Post by: dravier on May 06, 2008, 02:04:56 PM
I can only imagine... but a few years back (1999 - 2001) there seemed to be a lot more of an active BeBox community.  There were a lot of stories being swapped of beta versions, PR's, early version of BeOS.  But I can hardly find any mention of it anymore.  Every BeBoxen on eBay came with half a dozen releases, usually some beta.  And a prerelease BeBoxen wasn't uncommon.  Hell, I even remember someone selling a Hobbit Box on eBay (maybe closer to 1999) with a slue of alpha and beta disks and backups (wish I would have kept the screen shots and images for the auction)... who knows what happen to all that Be stuff.  Doesn't seem anyone much cares...

Was a great little OS IMHO.  Would love to get my hands on a BeBox one day...
Title: NS / OS release history?
Post by: helf on May 06, 2008, 03:20:46 PM
#haiku on freenode is super active, its the channel for the opensource beos clone. The community is nowhere NEAr as large as it was when I started using beos. which is sad :( I did find someone willing to sell a hobbit, recently. He wanted a fair amount and shipping from france would have killed me :P His was "prototype" prototype hobbit (really early) that had PPC upgrades in it ::)

I have a BeOS R4 intel/PPC disc if anyone wants it.
Title: NS / OS release history?
Post by: dravier on May 07, 2008, 10:50:48 AM
Hobbit to PPC?  That's one heck of an upgrade... have a hard time imagining that anything short of an entire main board rebuild would be required.  None the less, it's very cool to see that a few Hobbit Boxes are still out there.  

Sorry for feeding the radical tangent... but BeOS is a source of love and awe for me (funny to see it's popped up on a different thread as well).
Title: NS / OS release history?
Post by: brams on May 07, 2008, 04:55:21 PM
There is/was a French guy who used to work for Be, I think he had something to do with the NUB/bootrom code.  He had/has one of about six 200mhz PPC Prototype BeBoxes.  I wonder if he's the guy who was selling the Hobbit?

Be seemed to have a big following in France obviously down to the fact that JLG is French.  There was a Hobbit in eBay within the last 12 months, it was posted on BeBox forums.

I think as far a thread jacking or whatever you want to call it, anybody whos into NeXT nowadays has arrived here now they can actually afford to buy one and obviously for some of us because of the love of Macs and all things related thus that includes Be, I think it's fair game to talk about all things Be related, I do admit it seems to be a shame that not much happens on the BeBox forums these days.

Regarding shipping I think I paid 70 bucks to get me BeBox and loads of other stuff sent from the US to the UK 3 years back.  It took about 5 weeks using USPS.  I thought that was very cheap, there are probably less than 20 BeBoxes in the UK so trying to get one here is mega difficult.
Title: NS / OS release history?
Post by: nextchef on May 08, 2008, 03:49:14 PM
Quote from: "brams"Regarding shipping I think I paid 70 bucks to get me BeBox and loads of other stuff sent from the US to the UK 3 years back.  It took about 5 weeks using USPS.

Too bad the USPS got rid of the "slow boat" overseas semi-priority shipping option  :cry:
Now things have to go full priority or express, which is much more expensive but still nowhere near what FedEx /UPS charge.

:D Double hijacked thread now  :D
Title: NS / OS release history?
Post by: kb7sqi on May 08, 2008, 03:54:06 PM
Oh I don't see why discussing BeOS/Zeta/Mac OS is wrong here.  I agree, they all share close ties in the history of Apple/NeXT.  Besides the fact that most of us are OS junkies.  :wink:   I know I am. lol.  If you look in my "server" room, there's a countless # of Sun, NeXT, Mac, and Linux machines.   Besides the systems I run virtually.  I leave 5 systems running NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP running @ all times, along w/ 2 Macs running OSX,  3 systems running Linux, and 4 boxes running various revisions of Solaris.   The power company loves me.  8)   Take care.

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