Title: Replacement cube hard disk
Post by: pentium on May 15, 2008, 12:28:51 AM
Post by: pentium on May 15, 2008, 12:28:51 AM
Well my cube came with it's original Maxtor drive but no surprise it was dead. In it's place I want to install a 2Gb Seagate drive but so far I have been unable to even get the system to see the thing.
So far all I get when I power on is "no devices found" and I ahve already tried several scsi addresses. Is there some sort of requirement that the cube needs like parity or a specific address? I guessed ID 0 and to my surprise It didn't give me "attempting to boot" like it did when the Maxtor drive was installed.
So far all I get when I power on is "no devices found" and I ahve already tried several scsi addresses. Is there some sort of requirement that the cube needs like parity or a specific address? I guessed ID 0 and to my surprise It didn't give me "attempting to boot" like it did when the Maxtor drive was installed.
Title: Replacement cube hard disk
Post by: un on May 15, 2008, 12:38:06 AM
Post by: un on May 15, 2008, 12:38:06 AM
Did the new drive come out of another NeXT machine? I mean was it set up to work on another next computer?
When I replaced the tiny drive in my old mono 'station with a seagate ST15230N, I found that I had to change the jumpers that controlled the termination and drive start before the computer would recognise it. I'd have to take the machine apart again to figure out what they're set to now, but it's worth a try. Seagate drive manuals can by found via Google.
When I replaced the tiny drive in my old mono 'station with a seagate ST15230N, I found that I had to change the jumpers that controlled the termination and drive start before the computer would recognise it. I'd have to take the machine apart again to figure out what they're set to now, but it's worth a try. Seagate drive manuals can by found via Google.
Title: Replacement cube hard disk
Post by: pentium on May 15, 2008, 12:53:19 AM
Post by: pentium on May 15, 2008, 12:53:19 AM
I'm swapping the old Maxtor with an ST32151N that I pulled out of a pile of other drives I have. I tried copying the jumper configuration over from the old drive but I could not make heads or tails on what was and what was not set as the jumper sheet I found was horrible.
Title: Replacement cube hard disk
Post by: pentium on May 15, 2008, 01:11:09 AM
Post by: pentium on May 15, 2008, 01:11:09 AM
Hold the phone. It's doing it to the old drive now as well and I didn't change any jumpers on the old Maxtor.
What's going on?
EDIT: Actually, is there any way for me to see what scsi devices are connected while at the ROM prompt?
EDIT, AGAIN: Here are the two drives.
What's going on?
EDIT: Actually, is there any way for me to see what scsi devices are connected while at the ROM prompt?
EDIT, AGAIN: Here are the two drives.
Title: Replacement cube hard disk
Post by: gtnicol on May 15, 2008, 08:41:29 AM
Post by: gtnicol on May 15, 2008, 08:41:29 AM
The 32151N should work fine... I have one I use in one of my slabs and I know it boots in a cube. Make sure it's terminated... in the worst case take a terminated cable out of another system and use that.
Title: Replacement cube hard disk
Post by: helf on May 15, 2008, 08:46:38 AM
Post by: helf on May 15, 2008, 08:46:38 AM
I have one of those drives. I had to make sure it was terminated and I had a jumper on where it said something about 'parity', otherwise I'd get weird SCSI errors.
Title: Replacement cube hard disk
Post by: pentium on May 15, 2008, 12:26:16 PM
Post by: pentium on May 15, 2008, 12:26:16 PM
Okay, so you want termination as well as parity enabled?
Title: Replacement cube hard disk
Post by: helf on May 15, 2008, 12:28:34 PM
Post by: helf on May 15, 2008, 12:28:34 PM
yeah, give that a shot. Works in my slab with my drive.
Title: Replacement cube hard disk
Post by: pentium on May 15, 2008, 12:43:35 PM
Post by: pentium on May 15, 2008, 12:43:35 PM
I tried it with parity and termination on and got nothing.
Also does termination power come from the drive or the cube and does the drive supply the bus with termination power or does the cube do that?
Also I found out why I sa not getting the thing to auto boot on startup.
I accidently set the boot parameter to "y" (as in yes) and overwrote the original setting which was sd 0,0,0. Even after reverting back it still returns the error "no SCSI disk" with the seagate drive.
Also, I have some little inline terminator that can be attached between the drive and the ribbon cable. I'll give it a try after I find it.
Also does termination power come from the drive or the cube and does the drive supply the bus with termination power or does the cube do that?
Also I found out why I sa not getting the thing to auto boot on startup.
I accidently set the boot parameter to "y" (as in yes) and overwrote the original setting which was sd 0,0,0. Even after reverting back it still returns the error "no SCSI disk" with the seagate drive.
Also, I have some little inline terminator that can be attached between the drive and the ribbon cable. I'll give it a try after I find it.
Title: Replacement cube hard disk
Post by: pentium on May 15, 2008, 12:56:45 PM
Post by: pentium on May 15, 2008, 12:56:45 PM
The inline terminator did the job.
Now I got to find out why the terminator in the drive is not working.
Now I got to find out why the terminator in the drive is not working.
Title: Replacement cube hard disk
Post by: pentium on May 15, 2008, 01:10:37 PM
Post by: pentium on May 15, 2008, 01:10:37 PM
The drive for some reason was refusing to have its terminator powered from the bus. After I jumpered it so that the terminator was powered by the drive the system saw the drive no problem.
Okay, next question. Can I boot from a scsi floppy drive (like the one in my Indigo) and will a Yamaha CRW4416SX be a suitable cd drive to install from?
Okay, next question. Can I boot from a scsi floppy drive (like the one in my Indigo) and will a Yamaha CRW4416SX be a suitable cd drive to install from?
Title: Replacement cube hard disk
Post by: gtnicol on May 15, 2008, 03:50:04 PM
Post by: gtnicol on May 15, 2008, 03:50:04 PM
Yes to both questions, though you can boot from the cd too.
Title: Replacement cube hard disk
Post by: pentium on May 15, 2008, 09:38:38 PM
Post by: pentium on May 15, 2008, 09:38:38 PM
I thought only turbo cubes could directly boot from a cd? :?