Hello, I recently found a copy of Openstep 4.2 and installed it on VMWare, since I don't have any hardware right now that's compatible. I have it all installed properly with video drivers, but I can't use it at all. This is because after a few minutes, then the mouse goes crazy every few seconds. It will start flying across the screen and randomly sending mouseclicks, even if I'm not touching the mouse. It moves my windows all over the screen and does this forever unless I press Ctrl+Alt and take the mouse focus out of the VM. Then it fixes itself until I give VMware the mouse again. It happens again.
What's going on? I've heard this happens on real hardware too, so is there a fixed driver/OS patch/anything out there to help? Thanks.
Hi
I used NS 3.3 & OS 4.2 under VMware 3.5 & 4 point somthing and had exactly the same trouble as you have. I looked into the matter and it seems there is no fix, however it seems only VMware for Windows is affected, VMware Linux does not have the issue so I read a few times.
I've also read about the PS2 mouse bug in OPENSTEP but never experienced it on a PC, I believe the fix was to use a serial mouse.
Hmm, that's a shame. I'll have to see if I can even GET VMware to work on my Linux partition...
Just a thought though, does this happen on Virtual PC/Qemu/other x86 emulators? I have VPC 2004 and Qemu that I might try.
The lastest version I was able to get VPC working was under VPC 7 on Mac OS X.
Never used any other emmulators.
You could install OS 4.2 on a partition could you not?, that's what I did on my Vaio XG700.
Cheers
brams
I've already had a bad time with partitions, and I don't think my hardware is supported. I have an Athlon 64 3500+, 1 GB RAM, and some integrated ATI Radeon Xpress card. I don't think OS supports it. My other computer I could possibly use it on is a 486, but it doesn't have enough RAM. And my brother won't let me use his P2 450. So unless I find a computer at a garage sale, I'm stuck with virtualness.
you could get ram for your 486 off ebay for like 5 bucks. I bough 64mb of 72pinn edo off ebay and only payed about 12 dollars including shipping..
Hi
Do you have Norton Ghost 2003? & Partition Magic?, I used them and have my XG700 quad booting OS 4.2, W2K, BeOS 5.0.3 & BeOS Dano 5.1. It was fairly painless, I backed up the W2K part with Ghost and then set too with Partition Magic.
No idea if it works with AMD64 but you'll probably be out of luck due to the chip set if it's an nForce mobo. PII's run very nice with OS 4.2 and a 266 can be had for free almost.
Quote from: "Mr Ksoft"
I recently found a copy of Openstep 4.2 and installed it on VMWare
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This is because after a few minutes, then the mouse goes crazy every few seconds. It will start flying across the screen and randomly sending mouseclicks, even if I'm not touching the mouse. It moves my windows all over the screen and does this forever unless I press Ctrl+Alt and take the mouse focus out of the VM. Then it fixes itself until I give VMware the mouse again. It happens again.
Hello,
I had the same problem when installing OS4.2 in VMware (v 4.5/5.0/5.5). Fortunately in January VMware published the sources of their vmmouse driver for xorg on the xorg source tree and I was able to write a port to NeXTStep/OpenStep.
With this driver the mouse works very smooth. It also enables the automatic ungrab when you leave the window of the virtual machine but not the automatic grabbing as that also requires an appropriate display driver using hardware cursors.
You can find my driver here (
http://mitglied.lycos.de/Morgon_de/downloads/VMMouse-1.1.I.bs.tar.gz).
I hope this driver will work in your intallation as well as it does in mine :)
Greetings
Morgon
Hi there
Thanks very much!, I'm going to try VMware again.
Regards
Mick Bramley
Great stuff, Morgon! Which drivers did you use for VMware 5.x? After the basic installation I am not able to boot the system.
vfs_mountroot error=19
panic (Cpu 0) vfs_mountroot cannot mount root
Any ideas?
My bad, messed up the driver config. Base install is complete and going to test your VMware driver now.
Wow! You the man! Works like a charm! Can trash the dog slow Virtual PC images.:-)
I installed the VMware display driver after the basis installation and in case you run a res > 640 x 480, you have to adjust the values for the Vmware mouse driver (expoert options, Configure.app).
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in case you run a res > 640 x 480, you have to adjust the values for the Vmware mouse driver (expoert options, Configure.app).
Hello mk_schmidt,
you should be able to set the resolution values for VMMouse using the fields provided by the configuration interface for the driver in Configure.app. If that doesn't work for you I should have a look on it again as it worked in my installation.
Greetings
Morgon
PS: Maybe you'll encounter network problems with OpenStep inside VMware (v 5.0/5.5) when using the detected AMD driver. If that occurs drop a note and I will put a port of the linux vmx network driver into my download directory I've done earlier.
But as this driver is far more complicate than the mouse driver it can be seen only as a very early beta stage and may have some bugs. That's the cause I didn't upload it anywhere at this point.
I have a pretty up-to-date guide on installing OpenStep 4.2 on vmWare prepared if it would be of interest to anybody.
Morgon has great drivers not only for PS/2 mouse but also for networking under vmWare, which work very well for me.
He also has a sound driver which works for him but I haven't been able to get it to work yet on my machine.
Quote from: "tomaz"I have a pretty up-to-date guide on installing OpenStep 4.2 on vmWare prepared if it would be of interest to anybody.
We would be happy to host your guide here. Please send me a PM and I'll put it online.
Thanks. :)
Special thanks to Tomaz for allowing us to host his excellent guide on running NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP on emulation software. It's available in rtf and pdf format.
http://www.nextcomputers.org/docs/FAQ-OpenStepOnEmulators.rtfhttp://www.nextcomputers.org/docs/FAQ-OpenStepOnEmulators.pdf
I have updated the guide. v0.2 has the following changes:
- corrects many errors
- speed benchmarks of vmWare vs. Parallels Workstation on the same (PC) hardware. Conclusion, on my hardware: vmWare has faster display, but much slower disk I/O and networking.
- ideas on how to get around the 4GB filesystem limit (Unix/Linux host, NFS serve a large partition, OpenStep guest OS NFS mounts it via host-only networking).