Socketed CPU on a 68040 cube...

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Title: Socketed CPU on a 68040 cube...
Post by: gtnicol on March 13, 2006, 10:33:51 PM
I have a 68040/25 cube with a socketed CPU, rather than it being soldered in. Has anyone else seen this.

I'm wondering about the potential for overclocking :)
Title: Re: Socketed CPU on a 68040 cube...
Post by: gaspar on March 13, 2006, 10:39:06 PM
Quote from: "gtnicol"I have a 68040/25 cube with a socketed CPU, rather than it being soldered in. Has anyone else seen this.

I'm wondering about the potential for overclocking :)


That is one special hardware you got..  you can try and fit a 68040/33 in there...
Title: Socketed CPU on a 68040 cube...
Post by: gtnicol on March 13, 2006, 11:07:26 PM
That's what I was thinking... I can maybe a get a Turbo with 64MB of ram :-) The socket is not like the Turbo socket either... it's the same size as the chip. I might be able to try my Pyro in there (once I find the slab with it in again)... ;)

My digital camera is broken (had to send it back for repairs) otherwise I'd take photos.
Title: Re: Socketed CPU on a 68040 cube...
Post by: kenjay on March 13, 2006, 11:44:53 PM
Quote from: "gtnicol"I have a 68040/25 cube with a socketed CPU, rather than it being soldered in. Has anyone else seen this.

I'm wondering about the potential for overclocking :)

Really, there is nothing special about this. In my experience, at least 60%  of [all] the NeXT motherboards have the socketed CPU's.

Also - just for your information, simply inserting a 040/33MHz CPU will not accomplish anything. The computer will simply not boot. At least it was that way - when I tried to do it.
Title: Socketed CPU on a 68040 cube...
Post by: gtnicol on March 13, 2006, 11:52:40 PM
>Really, there is nothing special about this. In my experience,
>at least 60% of [all] the NeXT motherboards have the socketed CPU's.

Really? I hadn't noticed and I've played with a fair number. I guess I'll have to keep my eyes open.

Of course, that begs the question of why the difference? Is it different production runs?
Title: Socketed CPU on a 68040 cube...
Post by: brams on March 14, 2006, 12:45:32 AM
fitting a 33mhz 040 should still work, though nothing will have changed it should still run at 25mhz.

Fitting of the Pyro would be the thing to do :-)

brams
Title: Socketed CPU on a 68040 cube...
Post by: Nitro on March 14, 2006, 10:27:59 AM
Quote from: "gtnicol">Really, there is nothing special about this. In my experience,
>at least 60% of [all] the NeXT motherboards have the socketed CPU's.

Really? I hadn't noticed and I've played with a fair number. I guess I'll have to keep my eyes open.

Of course, that begs the question of why the difference? Is it different production runs?

I have a few of the socketed 040/25Mhz Cubes.  About 1/3 of the Cubes I've purchased have the socket.  They're the early design I believe. Here's a quote from the Spherical Solutions Pyro installation page:

QuoteThe Cube motherboard was manufactured by NeXT in two different ways which affect installation. On some motherboards, the 68040 CPU was installed in a socket; on later motherboards, the CPU was soldered directly to the motherboard.

http://web.archive.org/web/19980624233331/http://web.archive.org/web/19980624233331/http://www.orb.com/Pyro/I&O.html

I vote for installing the Pyro too.  :)
Title: Socketed CPU on a 68040 cube...
Post by: brams on March 14, 2006, 11:16:50 AM
I think from what I've read that there's a bit of a trick you need to do when fitting a Pyro in a Cube.  Not sure but I think it involves moving the logicboard into a different slot I think.

If it helps, there are some pics of a NeXTcube Pyro on my dot Mac homepage.

Cheers
brams
Title: Socketed CPU on a 68040 cube...
Post by: gtnicol on March 14, 2006, 11:57:21 AM
>I think from what I've read that there's a bit of a trick you need to do when >fitting a Pyro in a Cube. Not sure but I think it involves moving the >logicboard into a different slot I think.

That'd make sense: the pyro is a bit taller and probably needs more air.

What's the link to your .Mac site?
Title: Socketed CPU on a 68040 cube...
Post by: Nightengale on March 14, 2006, 01:00:19 PM
I found this link in his profile, I think it is the right one. Great Pics:
http://homepage.mac.com/brams/Menu4.html
Title: Socketed CPU on a 68040 cube...
Post by: brams on March 14, 2006, 01:07:55 PM
Yes thats the one, actually if you look under my sig you can see icons for MSN, AIM etc.  The WWW icon links to my .Mac site :-)

Cheers
brams
Title: Socketed CPU on a 68040 cube...
Post by: gtnicol on March 14, 2006, 01:24:34 PM
Is that your box? Found some more pictures of Nitro/Pyro at

http://www.nextcube.org/board/bbs.php3?board=board&line=rdate&nws=&mode=view&id=1316&page=3&keyword=&flag=subject&a_o=AND
Title: Socketed CPU on a 68040 cube...
Post by: brams on March 14, 2006, 01:36:17 PM
Hi

No it's not mine (though I wish it was), I got the pics sent to me from the seller, it was on eBay UK about 10 months ago and, I unfortunately could not bid as at exactly the same time there was the dual 133 BeBox that I own now on eBay, and I could not afford to buy them both (I paid about a grand for the BeBox inc shipping + duty to UK).  So I took the BeBox as it is mega rare to see them up for sale.  I know the Pyro is a rare beast as well but I already had my slab at the time, and now a Turbo Cube.

I have a spare Dimension & 040 logic board, if I could get an 030 Cube and Pyro, then I'd have somthing.


Pics of my Cube are here as well as some other photos:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/21699268@N00/

Cheers
brams

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