WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive

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Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: pentium on June 25, 2008, 01:34:15 AM
I really want to get NeXTStep loaded on my cube but I have no way to start the installer and netbooting is out of the question (for now).
Does anyone have a spare floppy drive and possibly a ribbon cable?
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: neozeed on June 25, 2008, 12:05:35 PM
the cube doesn't have an internal floppy.

It only has SCSI and the MagneticOptical drive connections.

You would need either to do the bootp & netboot the boot.cdrom file, or dd the boot floppy to something small-ish scsi wise, or get a scsi floppy.
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: slomacuser on June 25, 2008, 01:26:37 PM
the 040 cubes have the floppy ...
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: neozeed on June 25, 2008, 01:38:27 PM
Quote from: "slomacuser"the 040 cubes have the floppy ...

Mine doesn't....

Perhaps you are thinking of the 33Mhz ones?
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: happyjam64 on June 25, 2008, 02:54:10 PM
My 040 has a standard floppy connecter, but you need a scsi floppy to boot.
(good luck finding one, lol)
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: pergamon on June 25, 2008, 02:55:33 PM
Quote from: "neozeed"
Quote from: "slomacuser"the 040 cubes have the floppy ...

Mine doesn't....

Perhaps you are thinking of the 33Mhz ones?

All the 040s should, but the original 030s do not.  Are you sure yours is an 040?  It is possible there are some flukes out there, 040 chips on 030 boards or regular 040 boards that are just missing the connector...

(oh, and hi again everybody.  i'll be back on the board more regularly starting soon.)
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: slomacuser on June 25, 2008, 02:59:44 PM
Quote from: "pergamon"(oh, and hi again everybody.  i'll be back on the board more regularly starting soon.)

yeah, welcome back, I just wanted to open topic about "where is pergamon" ... you have been gone fro 3 months  :o
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: pentium on June 25, 2008, 04:19:17 PM
Quote from: "happyjam64"My 040 has a standard floppy connecter, but you need a scsi floppy to boot.
(good luck finding one, lol)

I got a TEAC SCSI floppy drive in my Indigo but, no surprise, it eats disks and blows read/write errors.
Also, yes, most 040 and Turbo 040 boards have a floppy connector.
There is a chance however that really, really early 040 boards might not have it.
Also, will the ribbon cable and floppy drive from a slab work?
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: un on June 25, 2008, 05:56:32 PM
Wouldn't it be easier to get a pre-installed HD from somewhere and use that to get going? SCSI floppies don't seem very common.
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: pentium on June 25, 2008, 08:06:59 PM
It would but I have no idea what to do and I just don't have the time to look for another drive. I leave for my summer job on Saturday.
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: Jenne on June 26, 2008, 12:49:17 AM
I'm a bit confused...

I never heard of a dedicated "SCSI floppy drive" before. Have there ever been drives that could have been jumpered as terminated or ID 3? Never seen such. Doesn't the cube (and all other machines) use a standard ribbon cable (just standard floppy ribbon cable, not SCSI ribbon cable)? I only remember machines from the 70ies having different ones.
The Macintosh Portable for example uses the same floppy ribbon cable and BUS type for connecting floppy drives and those odd Conner hard disks. Mine was missing the hard disk and so I tried a second floppy drive ripped of an older Pentium II machine. It worked. So maybe You should just try?

J
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: pentium on June 26, 2008, 01:14:33 AM
Why you are correct.
The floppy connector on the board will accept a 34 pin ribbon cable.
*runs off to cut up a spare ribbon cable*
Okay then, all I am looking for is a NeXT floppy drive and no ribbon cable.
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: Houdini on June 26, 2008, 02:14:36 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130232275178&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=003
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: Jenne on June 26, 2008, 09:53:04 AM
Quote from: "pentium"Okay then, all I am looking for is a NeXT floppy drive and no ribbon cable.

Hmm... So why don't You just try an old floppy drive for example from a Mac or PC?

J
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: pentium on June 26, 2008, 10:49:11 AM
Quote from: "Jenne"
Quote from: "pentium"Okay then, all I am looking for is a NeXT floppy drive and no ribbon cable.

Hmm... So why don't You just try an old floppy drive for example from a Mac or PC?

J
WE KNOW that will not work.
The board would go *poof*.
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: slomacuser on June 26, 2008, 11:14:13 AM
it is not the same connector either ...
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: pentium on June 27, 2008, 06:44:45 PM
So, does anyone want to sell me a floppy drive?
I gotta know by tonight as I won't be around for seven weeks starting tomorrow.
Title: NeXT floppy drive
Post by: gregor on June 29, 2008, 04:45:21 PM
I probably have one of these puppies stored in a cigar box somewhere.  Email me your address and I'll do my best to get one to you.

regards,
gregor

gregor49 at email.com
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: Houdini on June 29, 2008, 10:52:09 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290242250453
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: pentium on July 10, 2008, 01:48:47 PM
I missed that one. :(
Anyone else willing to sell?
Title: Re: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: muaddib on August 15, 2008, 10:57:47 AM
Quote from: "pentium"I really want to get NeXTStep loaded on my cube but I have no way to start the installer and netbooting is out of the question (for now).
Does anyone have a spare floppy drive and possibly a ribbon cable?



ahoi,

think there was a way to boot directly from the 3.3 cdrom with the nmi without the floppy disc.
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: pentium on August 17, 2008, 12:56:17 AM
NMI?  :?:
What's that?
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: cchaven on September 03, 2008, 07:33:32 AM
Your best bet would likely be to email Ron  Fronberg directly and ask if he still has any.  Also, if you can find one, there were a couple of companies that sold external SCSI floppy drives for the Cube.  I'd imagine those would be a lot more difficult to come up with.  

My 040/25 cube has internal floppy, MO and hard disk, so it was only the '030 Cube that didn't support the floppy drive.  the 040/25 is the only one that supports both the floppy and MO..they dropped the MO support from the Turbo.
Title: NeXT 2.88 Floppy
Post by: nextime on September 03, 2008, 11:02:24 AM
NeXT 2.88 Floppy On eBay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4193&item=290256530701
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: pentium on September 03, 2008, 11:13:07 AM
Thanks for the mention.  :)
Title: Blackhole is still selling things!
Post by: Zardoz on September 03, 2008, 02:45:29 PM
Hi!

I have purchased some software and books from blackhole inc. Even a Mouse. In bad shape but working. So he still is in business. He even got me a license code for Mathematica 2.0.4 from Wolfram Resaerch. Does sombody know where i can get 3.0 or does it not exist at all?

Maybe he can sell you a floppy.
(I don´t get money for this advertisement)
wkr
Title: Re: Blackhole is still selling things!
Post by: Nitro on September 03, 2008, 07:03:52 PM
Quote from: "Zardoz"He even got me a license code for Mathematica 2.0.4 from Wolfram Resaerch. Does sombody know where i can get 3.0 or does it not exist at all?

Rob used to sell Mathematica 3.  I haven't talked to him in a while so I don't know if he still does.

http://www.blackholeinc.com/catalog/software/Software/Scientific/Mathematica.shtml
Title: WTB: NeXT internal floppy drive
Post by: pentium on September 04, 2008, 12:18:24 PM
Bah! #@$!
%$^@!
@##!

Son of a $#@%#, I got sniped out by two other people.


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