Video problems in NS3.3 and VMWare 5.5/WinXP and Qemu/Linux

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Title: Video problems in NS3.3 and VMWare 5.5/WinXP and Qemu/Linux
Post by: schmidt on April 30, 2006, 08:16:51 AM
I successfully installed NeXTStep in a virtual machine on Qemu/Linux and VMWare5.5/WinXP - thanks for the good instructions and how-tos in this forum.

But I still work with a 640x480 BW screen and I don't know how to get over it. Since I got no hints concerning my qemu/linux vm I fully concentrated on the other part and tried the drivers from
http://www.chez.com/fstark/VMWareSVGA.tar.gz and
http://atomicobject.com/openstep-driver.page

But no matter what settings I tried - the screen remains black'n'white with 640x480 pixels. Does anybody know a working combination, that I should try. I would be able to test a current version of VirtualPC as well, but I don't know if that would help anyway.

Any hints and tips are appreciated.
Title: Video problems in NS3.3 and VMWare 5.5/WinXP and Qemu/Linux
Post by: brams on April 30, 2006, 08:41:54 AM
AFAIK, the VGA driver for VMware is for OS 4.2 not NEXTSTEP.

On the atomic object site it does look like the source is there to build the driver for NEXTSTEP tho.

I have used the atomic object driver before with VMware workstaion 3 & 4 with OS 4.2 and it works fine.

You are logged in as root into NEXTSTEP and are using Configure.app to assign the  VMware VGA driver?
Title: Video problems in NS3.3 and VMWare 5.5/WinXP and Qemu/Linux
Post by: schmidt on April 30, 2006, 09:04:02 AM
Quote from: "brams"You are logged in as root into NEXTSTEP and are using Configure.app to assign the  VMware VGA driver?
Yes, I am/do.

Concerning your test with VMware 3 and 4: I would test these, too, but I can't find installs for them on the VMware home page. The eldest version I could find was 4.5.3. Has anybody ever tried this version?
Title: Video problems in NS3.3 and VMWare 5.5/WinXP and Qemu/Linux
Post by: brams on April 30, 2006, 09:31:38 AM
I think I was using it under VMware 4.5.x but went back to 3.2, IIRC 4.5 didn't play to good with the Wi-Fi card I was using in the PC I had at the time.

Have you tried Parallels under Windows/Linux?, I've tried them all nearly and by far Parallels under OS x86 is the best so far short of using a real PC with NeXT on it.

I have the demo version of 3.2 for Windows 2000/XP which will license if you have the key, let me know if you need it.

Brams
Title: try the vmware player
Post by: neozeed on May 01, 2006, 12:13:21 AM
on another machine.. its more current..
Title: Video problems in NS3.3 and VMWare 5.5/WinXP and Qemu/Linux
Post by: brams on May 01, 2006, 01:08:07 AM
Did 3.2 work?
Title: Video problems in NS3.3 and VMWare 5.5/WinXP and Qemu/Linux
Post by: schmidt on May 01, 2006, 03:07:26 AM
Quote from: "brams"Did 3.2 work?
I hope so - I had not the time to test it.
Title: Video problems in NS3.3 and VMWare 5.5/WinXP and Qemu/Linux
Post by: tomaz on May 01, 2006, 02:19:41 PM
The Atomic Objects (binary) driver will work with NextStep 3.3, at least on vmWare beta 22088 and 22874 on Windows XP. This is what I did to make it work for me:

http://www.nextcomputers.org/docs/FAQ-OpenStepOnEmulators.rtf

The above also contains benchmarks which compare OpenStep 4.2 under vmWare and Parallels on Windows XP. vmWare is faster than Parallels when it comes to disk I/O and networking (with available drivers), but Parallels has faster display.

I'd be very interested in hearing how Parallels on Mac/x86 compares to those figures. Anybody willing to run the benchmarks?

Also, I have not succeeded in getting Peter Ramussen and Frederick Starck's vmWare SVGA drivers to work with either NextStep or OpenStep under these same versions of vmWare. I'm curious to see (if I can those to work) which has the best performance.
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Post by: PGHammer on February 04, 2008, 08:05:20 AM
Quote from: "tomaz"The Atomic Objects (binary) driver will work with NextStep 3.3, at least on vmWare beta 22088 and 22874 on Windows XP. This is what I did to make it work for me:

http://www.nextcomputers.org/docs/FAQ-OpenStepOnEmulators.rtf

The above also contains benchmarks which compare OpenStep 4.2 under vmWare and Parallels on Windows XP. vmWare is faster than Parallels when it comes to disk I/O and networking (with available drivers), but Parallels has faster display.

I'd be very interested in hearing how Parallels on Mac/x86 compares to those figures. Anybody willing to run the benchmarks?

Also, I have not succeeded in getting Peter Ramussen and Frederick Starck's vmWare SVGA drivers to work with either NextStep or OpenStep under these same versions of vmWare. I'm curious to see (if I can those to work) which has the best performance.

The driver is also known to work under Workstation for Windows (from 5.5 up, including 6/ACE Edition) with any Windows host (I'm running NS 3.3 with a Vista Ultimate x86 host at 1280x1024@32-bit color: oh, the advantages of having a 19" CRT; I'm using the AO driver).

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