Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: eagle on March 20, 2014, 08:49:48 PM
Post by: eagle on March 20, 2014, 08:49:48 PM
Hi, all.
I'm wondering if anyone has had any success with installing NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous. I made a copy of my NS3.0 CD by running the following command:
Unfortunately, when I connect that image to Previous, it says that the disk is not recognized and it offers to initialize it for me. I decline.
Has anyone else had success in installing this? Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks.
I'm wondering if anyone has had any success with installing NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous. I made a copy of my NS3.0 CD by running the following command:
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[eagle@franklin:1455:/Volumes/FWDrobo/Emulation/NeXT/Previous/NeXT stuff/NeXT HD]sudo dd if=/dev/disk3s0 of=../NeXT\ OS/NS30.iso bs=1024
Password:
675090+0 records in
675090+0 records out
691292160 bytes transferred in 540.556540 secs (1278853 bytes/sec)
[eagle@franklin:1456:/Volumes/FWDrobo/Emulation/NeXT/Previous/NeXT stuff/NeXT HD]Unfortunately, when I connect that image to Previous, it says that the disk is not recognized and it offers to initialize it for me. I decline.
Has anyone else had success in installing this? Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks.
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: mikeboss on March 21, 2014, 03:27:58 AM
Post by: mikeboss on March 21, 2014, 03:27:58 AM
you're on OS X, right?
I think you should try dd if=/dev/rdisk3 of=/path/NS30.iso bs=2048
I think you should try dd if=/dev/rdisk3 of=/path/NS30.iso bs=2048
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: eagle on March 21, 2014, 06:20:24 AM
Post by: eagle on March 21, 2014, 06:20:24 AM
Thanks. I have tried 512, 1024, and 2048. The resulting files have exactly the same md5 checksum:
So far no joy. :(
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[eagle@franklin:1479:/Volumes/FWDrobo/Emulation/NeXT/Previous/NeXT stuff/NeXT OS]md5 NS30*iso
MD5 (NS30-2048.iso) = 5fe72e048953c1b88cae2a523729ff02
MD5 (NS30-512.iso) = 5fe72e048953c1b88cae2a523729ff02
MD5 (NS30.iso) = 5fe72e048953c1b88cae2a523729ff02
[eagle@franklin:1480:/Volumes/FWDrobo/Emulation/NeXT/Previous/NeXT stuff/NeXT OS]So far no joy. :(
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: mikeboss on March 21, 2014, 06:24:13 AM
Post by: mikeboss on March 21, 2014, 06:24:13 AM
did you try to use if=/dev/rdisk3 as source (instead of /dev/disk3s0)? I don't think that the blocksize matters anyway...
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: eagle on March 21, 2014, 06:27:14 AM
Post by: eagle on March 21, 2014, 06:27:14 AM
I didn't try that; I got the disk ID from Disk Utility.
Anyway, I think the deal is that you need to install the CD Tools first: once I did that, now the boot sequence sees the CD properly: it's reporting as 659MB.
Unfortunately it boots with network on, so you first need to boot into single user mode to turn it off (can't press Control-C). And... :( ... my first attempt at booting into single user mode failed. I need to get to work, so I'll try this later.
Anyway, I think the deal is that you need to install the CD Tools first: once I did that, now the boot sequence sees the CD properly: it's reporting as 659MB.
Unfortunately it boots with network on, so you first need to boot into single user mode to turn it off (can't press Control-C). And... :( ... my first attempt at booting into single user mode failed. I need to get to work, so I'll try this later.
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: andreas_g on March 21, 2014, 06:30:49 AM
Post by: andreas_g on March 21, 2014, 06:30:49 AM
Did you try wih branch_mmu? Control-C should work there.
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: eagle on March 21, 2014, 06:47:09 AM
Post by: eagle on March 21, 2014, 06:47:09 AM
Hi Andreas. I have not switched to branch_mmu, because I don't know enough about subversion to be able to do that. :) Can you let me know what the command would be? I can recompile it after that, but I am not sure how to check out that branch, nor am I sure how to switch back to the master/main branch after I do that. Thanks.
Edit: I tried this, and it seems like it might be the correct command:
Edit: I tried this, and it seems like it might be the correct command:
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[eagle@franklin:1421:/Users/eagle/Source/previous-code]svn sw svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/previous/code/branches/branch_mmu .
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: protocol7 on March 21, 2014, 08:16:56 AM
Post by: protocol7 on March 21, 2014, 08:16:56 AM
To checkout branch_mmu:
And to checkout the regular trunk:
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svn checkout svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/previous/code/branches/branch_mmu previous-branchAnd to checkout the regular trunk:
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svn checkout svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/previous/code/trunk previous-trunk
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: eagle on March 21, 2014, 08:27:14 AM
Post by: eagle on March 21, 2014, 08:27:14 AM
As I write this, NS3.0 is installing in Previous.
You need a working 2.x system. You need to set a password for users me and root, so that you can log in as root. Then, you install the CD driver in the NS2.x install using the floppy disc, then reboot. I chose to update /etc/hostconfig before rebooting so I didn't have to deal with the Control-C issue. When you reboot back into 2.x, NS2.x does see the CD-ROM, and you can run the Updater.app from the CD.
You need a working 2.x system. You need to set a password for users me and root, so that you can log in as root. Then, you install the CD driver in the NS2.x install using the floppy disc, then reboot. I chose to update /etc/hostconfig before rebooting so I didn't have to deal with the Control-C issue. When you reboot back into 2.x, NS2.x does see the CD-ROM, and you can run the Updater.app from the CD.
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: eagle on March 21, 2014, 08:53:39 AM
Post by: eagle on March 21, 2014, 08:53:39 AM
And.... it's done.
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: eagle on March 22, 2014, 04:46:53 PM
Post by: eagle on March 22, 2014, 04:46:53 PM
Now I see what you guys were telling me: the 3.0 floppy disk is a bootable disk, and it boots the CD-ROM. I am reinstalling now, for a fresh install of 3.0.
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: cbrunschen on March 01, 2017, 09:34:43 AM
Post by: cbrunschen on March 01, 2017, 09:34:43 AM
Quote from: "eagle"Now I see what you guys were telling me: the 3.0 floppy disk is a bootable disk, and it boots the CD-ROM. I am reinstalling now, for a fresh install of 3.0.
I'd love to do a similar install myself; does anyone have a 3.0 installation CD & floppy, or even better, CD & floppy images ?
Best wishes,
// Christian
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: bobo68 on March 01, 2017, 03:41:36 PM
Post by: bobo68 on March 01, 2017, 03:41:36 PM
Images of boot floppies can be found right around the corner http://www.nextcomputers.org/NeXTfiles/Software/NEXTSTEP/Floppy_Images/ or here http://www.shawcomputing.net/resources/next/hardware/boot_floppies/boot_floppies.html
CD images: https://winworldpc.com/product/nextstep[/url] (there are even HD images here with Previous).
Aren't you employed at Google, just use it! 8)
CD images: https://winworldpc.com/product/nextstep[/url] (there are even HD images here with Previous).
Aren't you employed at Google, just use it! 8)
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: mikeboss on March 02, 2017, 04:04:38 AM
Post by: mikeboss on March 02, 2017, 04:04:38 AM
christian is specifically looking for the NS 3.0 ISO and so far, this seems not to be available anywhere... I don't have it either. I'm pretty sure that I created the 3.0 disk image from a running 3.0 harddrive or optical disk.
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: t-rexky on March 02, 2017, 04:34:36 AM
Post by: t-rexky on March 02, 2017, 04:34:36 AM
I might have 3.0 CD, but will need to check. Cannot remember if it's 3.0 or 3.1.
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: bobo68 on March 02, 2017, 11:24:05 AM
Post by: bobo68 on March 02, 2017, 11:24:05 AM
Oops, sorry. There is a NS 3.0 HD image at winworldpc: https://winworldpc.com/download/B4DFB69D-533E-11E4-A90F-7054D21A8599
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: SlateBlue on March 02, 2017, 11:40:39 AM
Post by: SlateBlue on March 02, 2017, 11:40:39 AM
I might have a 3.0 CD, too. I'll check my stash in case t-rexky doesn't have one.
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: cbrunschen on October 06, 2017, 04:30:58 AM
Post by: cbrunschen on October 06, 2017, 04:30:58 AM
I've found my NeXTSTEP 3 CD & floppy! I've also dumped them so I could upload them somewhere useful. Suggestions?
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: t-rexky on October 06, 2017, 04:51:21 AM
Post by: t-rexky on October 06, 2017, 04:51:21 AM
I apologize that I was unable to check. No time here whatsoever...
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.0 in Previous
Post by: cbrunschen on October 06, 2017, 05:19:35 AM
Post by: cbrunschen on October 06, 2017, 05:19:35 AM
Quote from: "t-rexky"I apologize that I was unable to check. No time here whatsoever...
No worries. As I said, I found mine, so problem solved :)