Title: NeXTStep Diskette Included !!!!!!!
Post by: Mike on March 06, 2017, 11:57:14 PM
Post by: Mike on March 06, 2017, 11:57:14 PM
Hello to all:
I ordered a used copy of Shebanek's old NeXT book from a bookseller on the internet.
It was only $8.50 plus a few dollars postage.
Does anyone else have a copy -- and can anyone make the files on the diskette available ???
Mike
I ordered a used copy of Shebanek's old NeXT book from a bookseller on the internet.
It was only $8.50 plus a few dollars postage.
Does anyone else have a copy -- and can anyone make the files on the diskette available ???
Mike
Title: NeXTStep Diskette Included !!!!!!!
Post by: Mike on March 08, 2017, 10:35:59 AM
Post by: Mike on March 08, 2017, 10:35:59 AM
Well,
The Shebanek NeXTStep book arrived today, the one I ordered last week through Abe Books (and supplied by Thrift Books in Aurora, IL.)
Described as "used" and supposedly in fair condition, it showed up looking completely clean and unused --- and I was a bit premature assuming that the software diskette would not be included: not only is the NeXTStep diskette still in the book, but the plastic envelope has never even been opened.
Expectations exceeded. I will have to read up on how to copy diskettes and make a backup. I hope the floppy is still good.
Mike
The Shebanek NeXTStep book arrived today, the one I ordered last week through Abe Books (and supplied by Thrift Books in Aurora, IL.)
Described as "used" and supposedly in fair condition, it showed up looking completely clean and unused --- and I was a bit premature assuming that the software diskette would not be included: not only is the NeXTStep diskette still in the book, but the plastic envelope has never even been opened.
Expectations exceeded. I will have to read up on how to copy diskettes and make a backup. I hope the floppy is still good.
Mike
Title: NeXTStep Diskette Included !!!!!!!
Post by: bobo68 on March 10, 2017, 04:47:07 PM
Post by: bobo68 on March 10, 2017, 04:47:07 PM
Please make an image of the floppy and post it here.
Title: NeXTStep Diskette Included !!!!!!!
Post by: Mike on March 10, 2017, 05:36:34 PM
Post by: Mike on March 10, 2017, 05:36:34 PM
Hmmmm.... If only it were that easy.
Not possible.
I have owned a NeXTStation Mono, my first and only NeXT computer, for just over a month now and am a novice at this stuff. Realistically speaking, I simply do not have the skills required to connect the NeXTStation to our home network (five Macs) in order to post a disk image to DropBox ... and when I put the disk into my Mac Pro to create a disk image for that purpose, of course it says that the disk is unreadable and offers to initialize it...
I could, theoretically, duplicate the 1.44MB floppy disk (by using the instructions outlined in Michael B. Shebanek's excellent book) and mail you a copy.
Unfortunately, I am in CANADA. If I were in China, I could send out no end of disks for free...
Mike
Not possible.
I have owned a NeXTStation Mono, my first and only NeXT computer, for just over a month now and am a novice at this stuff. Realistically speaking, I simply do not have the skills required to connect the NeXTStation to our home network (five Macs) in order to post a disk image to DropBox ... and when I put the disk into my Mac Pro to create a disk image for that purpose, of course it says that the disk is unreadable and offers to initialize it...
I could, theoretically, duplicate the 1.44MB floppy disk (by using the instructions outlined in Michael B. Shebanek's excellent book) and mail you a copy.
Unfortunately, I am in CANADA. If I were in China, I could send out no end of disks for free...
Mike
Title: NeXTStep Diskette Included !!!!!!!
Post by: Mike on March 10, 2017, 06:52:02 PM
Post by: Mike on March 10, 2017, 06:52:02 PM
Quote from: "bobo68"Please make an image of the floppy and post it here.
However.... I see you are in Germany. A bit off the beaten track.
If someone who lives close to Toronto in Southern Ontario and whose NeXTStation or other NeXT Computer is already networked, and who could give me a mailing address, I would gladly drop a duplicate copy of the diskette into the mail.
I will not post my email address here for fear of attracting SPAM, but if you mosey on over to <www.mause.ca> and click on the tab for Executive Team you will find that I am listed as President. Click on my name (Michael) to send me a message. Include a mailing address and I will mail you a disk with a copy of the compressed files that were included on the Shebanek diskette. Then you can make a disk image post it here for all to see.
Mike
Title: NeXTStep Diskette Included !!!!!!!
Post by: bobo68 on March 11, 2017, 03:36:20 PM
Post by: bobo68 on March 11, 2017, 03:36:20 PM
Your Mac Pro has a floppy drive and runs Mac OS X, right?
Title: NeXTStep Diskette Included !!!!!!!
Post by: Mike on March 11, 2017, 04:15:36 PM
Post by: Mike on March 11, 2017, 04:15:36 PM
Yes.
My Mac Pro has an external floppy drive.
If you know how I can duplicate a NeXT-formatted diskette on a Mac Pro lay it on me.
Like I said before, I am new to NeXTStep and processes and actions that may seem basic and obvious to many of the rest of you are still a mystery to me.
Explain in simple terms.
Mike
My Mac Pro has an external floppy drive.
If you know how I can duplicate a NeXT-formatted diskette on a Mac Pro lay it on me.
Like I said before, I am new to NeXTStep and processes and actions that may seem basic and obvious to many of the rest of you are still a mystery to me.
Explain in simple terms.
Mike
Title: NeXTStep Diskette Included !!!!!!!
Post by: bobo68 on March 12, 2017, 01:51:52 PM
Post by: bobo68 on March 12, 2017, 01:51:52 PM
On UNIX systems like the NeXT and OS X machines you can use the "dd" shell command. Before we try that: it might be easier to create a disk image with the "Disk Utility" of Mac OS X.
Does the diskette show up in Disk Utility?
These instructions might be helpful: http://imacify.com/2013/06/how-to-create-iso-disc-image-from-cddvd-in-mac-os-x/
Does the diskette show up in Disk Utility?
These instructions might be helpful: http://imacify.com/2013/06/how-to-create-iso-disc-image-from-cddvd-in-mac-os-x/
Title: NeXTStep Diskette Included !!!!!!!
Post by: Mike on March 12, 2017, 03:43:15 PM
Post by: Mike on March 12, 2017, 03:43:15 PM
Worth a try...
See if you can do anything with this....
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4370787/NeXTStep%20Guide.dmg
See if you can do anything with this....
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4370787/NeXTStep%20Guide.dmg
Title: NeXTStep Diskette Included !!!!!!!
Post by: bobo68 on March 13, 2017, 03:32:39 PM
Post by: bobo68 on March 13, 2017, 03:32:39 PM
Tried to mount it in NeXTstep (Previous) and OPENSTEP (Parallels): nada.
How did you create the image, which format did you choose in Disk Utility? Please try DVD/CD Master if you haven't.
How did you create the image, which format did you choose in Disk Utility? Please try DVD/CD Master if you haven't.
Title: NeXTStep Diskette Included !!!!!!!
Post by: Mike on March 13, 2017, 05:28:32 PM
Post by: Mike on March 13, 2017, 05:28:32 PM
Try this..... CD Master....
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4370787/NeXTStep%20Guide.cdr
or this one...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/syteo19m233sxb4/NeXTStep%20Guide.cdr?dl=0
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4370787/NeXTStep%20Guide.cdr
or this one...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/syteo19m233sxb4/NeXTStep%20Guide.cdr?dl=0
Title: NeXTStep Diskette Included !!!!!!!
Post by: bobo68 on March 14, 2017, 03:19:46 PM
Post by: bobo68 on March 14, 2017, 03:19:46 PM
Works! Thank you.
Title: NeXTStep Diskette Included !!!!!!!
Post by: bobo68 on March 14, 2017, 03:53:49 PM
Post by: bobo68 on March 14, 2017, 03:53:49 PM
Moved the files from the diskette via NFS to my Mac. Here they are in case you want them in the current world: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1429222/Guide%20to%20NeXT%20Step.zip
Title: NeXTStep Diskette Included !!!!!!!
Post by: krazycat on March 15, 2017, 03:54:56 AM
Post by: krazycat on March 15, 2017, 03:54:56 AM
Thanks! How to convert in a NeXT floppy with the latest MacOsX? Or should I use Rawrite on PC?
Title: NeXTStep Diskette Included !!!!!!!
Post by: bobo68 on March 15, 2017, 04:01:45 AM
Post by: bobo68 on March 15, 2017, 04:01:45 AM
If you want to copy the floppy disk image onto a floppy disk you normally use the dd command on UNIX systems. Like this:
Have a look here for more information: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-create-disk-image-on-mac-os-x-with-dd-command/
Disk Utility should also be able to write back the image if the floppy disk shows up there.
AFAIK rawrite is a dd for Windows.
Code Select
sudo dd if=<path to image> of=<path to device>Have a look here for more information: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-create-disk-image-on-mac-os-x-with-dd-command/
Disk Utility should also be able to write back the image if the floppy disk shows up there.
AFAIK rawrite is a dd for Windows.
Title: NeXTStep Diskette Included !!!!!!!
Post by: krazycat on March 15, 2017, 04:05:21 AM
Post by: krazycat on March 15, 2017, 04:05:21 AM
thanks, I'll do some tests with my slab this weekend :)