Some recent discussions have got me looking at GNUstep and the stuff around it. My thought was that a combination of GNUstep running Window Maker, on top of a BSD system, would give a "NS/OSish" computing environment. I could have the look and feel of NS/OS, be able to run some of the older apps, and be able to run newer Gnome/KDE apps as well. It would also allow me to use much newer and faster hardware, with more features than the "vintage" stuff I am now using.
Has anyone explored this area recently? Can any NS/OS apps actually be run in this environment, or do they have to be re-created from scratch. The NS/OS interface is starting to grow on me, so I want to use it more. ;)
Chef
Getting Openstep code to compile in current GNUstep is possible, but needs some experience.
A few of the GNUstep developers are from NeXT/Openstep backgrounds and focus on porting, but most of the apps I run in GNUstep are not from NS/OS sources, more completely rewritten by the development teams.
I would recommend the following :
Read the GNUstep wiki on
http://wiki.gnustep.orgSearch the newsgroup on
http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.gnustep.discuss re FreeBSD
and if you have any problems not answered there, irc.freenode.net /join #gnustep
Good luck,
Tenzin
How about this for an idea. Could I run it on top of darwin, and be even closer to the NS/OS roots? Will have to research this a little more and see.
Chef
Quote from: "tenzin"Getting Openstep code to compile in current GNUstep is possible, but needs some experience.
A few of the GNUstep developers are from NeXT/Openstep backgrounds and focus on porting, but most of the apps I run in GNUstep are not from NS/OS sources, more completely rewritten by the development teams.
So what hardware and OS/distro do you run GNUstep on.
Chef
Quote from: "nextchef"
So what hardware and OS/distro do you run GNUstep on.
Chef
I run GNUstep on SuSE 9.2 on an IBM Thinkpad T30, 1.8 GHz CPU,512 MB RAM, 16 MB VRAM, 20 GB HDD and external PCMCIA HDD's for very fast parallel data access.
I use GNUstep mainly for biotech related work and am currently looking into using it also as a front end to Renderman and related compliant suites such as BMRT, Aqsis, Pixie and so on.
I also run Visual Molecular Dynamics, and Chimera on this system. Chimera is a modern C++/Python based Molecular Graphics suite that was originally called MidasPlus and available for NeXTstep 3 in it's v2.1 form.
These and most other tools I use were developed originally for SGI Irix except those of Openstep origins in GNUstep.
Tenzin
Tenzin,
Cool apps, especially Chimera. Tools like that were just in their infancy when I was still in the field. I remember how cool it was the first time I could design/map my plasmids on the mac, as opposed to on paper or by uploading sequence and instructions to the vax/vms to run. No more problems with an overlooked partial restriction site match that would ruin your day, or a week worth of work. As I stated before in another thread, it was pre WWW when I was getting my start in this. No dropping nucleotide or peptide sequences into a web form in order to do Genbank or FASTA searches. No quick and easy Medline searches over the web either.
Getting a little off track /off topic for the thread, so I will stop.
Man, I sure do sound like an old cranky guy. At least I didnt say "well, in my day ..."
Chef
The GNUStep Live CD is actually pretty good..
It's Debian underneath, so there is easy access to GNUStep and other applications. Debian is also very flexible when it comes to configuration: services, kernels, drivers, etc.
http://www.linuks.mine.nu/gnustep/GWorkspace is good - but still a little buggy.
I haven't touched Project Center or GORM in a few years, but they must be getting better, judging by the swell in the number of available GNUStep Apps.
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OpenDarwin has ports for GNUStep and Windowmaker:
http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/ports/?by=name&substr=gnustephttp://darwinports.opendarwin.org/ports/?by=name&substr=windowmaker
Thank you! :D I've been looking for a GNUstep + BSD combo forever! I'd be willing to do artwork (logos, "powered by" buttons, etc.), if that's OK.