Mathematica 2.2 and 3.0 working!

Hello everyone,

For ages I've been trying to get Mathematica 2.2 again like I had on my old Turbostation.
Wolfram absolutely refuse to issue license numbers for anyone. and my understanding was that they changed the serial generation seed with each version.

However in a fit of thickheaded stupidity I decided to try the oldest key generator I had - for V4.0.
Well, it works on both V2.2 and V3.0
NB: Mathematica 3.0 is available on NeXT and Intel (I think also sparand HP I can't remember. Will anyone try that?) V2.2 is NeXT only. So you have choices where you run it.

Below is proof. (it was of an earlier attempt so has an error message, but yours won't.)

I'm not sure of the etiquette of uploading key generators to this forum so I'll leave off the original file for now. I will leave instructions.

Use the mathematica 4.0-4.1 keygen V1.2 by hard-wisdom.

Select European style license and enter your mathid and license number. If you don't have a license number there should be an example mathpass file with a license number you can use.

I selected license style 1.

Hit generate.

Use the password it generates and alter your license string as it displays below the password
(EG: Change L2093-8764 to L0000-8764).

That's it!

Hello NeXT Community: This is excellent news , I was able to get pemission to do this from Theodore Gray back in the 90's, nice fellow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Gray , he cofounded Wolfram and won a Nobel Prize for chemistry in 2002

Letter from Wolfram hobbiest Mathematica licenses....

http://www.blackholeinc.com/catalog/software/Software/Scientific/math.pdf

Thank you Spitfire !

Best regards Rob Bllessin

Since Rob has permission, and spitfire has a keygen, can the necessary bits be shared with the community for download somewhere?

If Rob says it's okay I'll post the key generator here.

So Rob, is it okay to do this?

Congrats and way to go!

Well I haven't heard a "NO" from Rob. So here it is.

Beware, I haven't virus scanned this. So run it in a VM without network. I ran it on a Windows 2000 VM.

Virustotal gets a hit on one of the 59 engines it uses to scan files, but not sure how accurate that engine is.

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/9224acd578450507885bc91862c33297fa9fc4cf60efe28571dc362cd0c4c03f/detection

Thanks spitfire. I actually have a legit copy, with the original license and install media, that I got from a University, but the the hostname changed and there's a printed e-mail trail of Wolfram trying to fix it for them. Ultimately, it partially works but throws a warning every time you run a calculation. Hopefully this solves it (20 years or so later!)

Quote from: spitfire on October 01, 2021, 01:48:45 PMWell I haven't heard a "NO" from Rob. So here it is.

Beware, I haven't virus scanned this. So run it in a VM without network. I ran it on a Windows 2000 VM.

I think it's reasonable because there are people here that have legit actual licenses and cannot use the software they paid for otherwise.

Hello NeXT Community : Absolutely Yes on the keygen, I don't know how I missed this as we have permission for Mathemmatica hobbiest license use for NeXT 68K hardware all version up until 3.0.2.  It is an App from the roots of NeXT and Wolfram ; Mathematica 1.0 originally came bundled with NeXTSTEP 1.0 on the very earliest cubes :)  http://www.blackholeinc.com/catalog/software/Software/Scientific/math.pdf

 Theodore Gray <theodore@wolfram.com>
Sent: Jan 31, 2011 1:15 PM
...................

Considering how special these licenses are I don't think we would have any problem with registering one internationally.  If the registration system gives him any trouble let me know.

We are, like everyone, thinking about what to do with the iPhone.

Theo

On Jul 9, 2008, at 2:33 AM, bhi1@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> Hello Theodore Gray:
>
> I thought I would follow up with you and thank you once more has it > has been a few years for giving us at Black Hole, Inc.  permission > to distribute the last version 3.0.2 of Mathematica for original > NeXT computers.
>
> I still have a some of the 50 licenses that you personally assigned > me (thank you) and am just letting you know that we will be > registering a few copies to collectors of the good old NeXT > computers with in the next few weeks!
>
> One of the customers drive died and he has several important > mathematica / write now documents that he needs to recover > information from !
> I also have a request from a customer in Germany as he is interested > in a copy for his NeXT as well for fun and am wondering if you would > give approval to this customer to register a copy of Mathematica as > he is an international customer , I thought I should check and make > sure this would be Ok.
>
> I feel that these customers will procure other new products directly > from Wolfram in the future as a result of helping them with their > NeXT's , I always include the brochures that you sent and know that > this has led to a few sales from Wolfram directly.  I am just trying > to make sure assigning these NeXT computer licenses is still OK as > it has been a few years.
>
> Also are you all going to have any products for the Iphone?
>
> Look forward to continuing to support Wolfram and your excellent > products in the future!
>
> Best regards Rob Blessin President , Black Hole, Inc 303-741-9998
>

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Rob. Do you (Or anyone else) have a copy of 3.0.2? I've only been able to find 3.0.1, and of course 1.0/2.0/2.2.

I'm currently using 3.0.1 on a regular basis.

Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but can someone here explain to me how to find the correct MathID? I have 2.1 running fine under Previous 2.5 but can't get 3.0 to license correctly using the app from upthread.

I also can't get a copy of the 3.0.2 iso to unstuff correctly on Windows but that's a different game :)

Thank you for your help.

I have 3.0 licensed using spitfires guide.  I seem to recall some lack of clarity around this as well, but I don't recall or I didn't make notes about it. If you want to to share what you see (PM?), I can compare it to the screensave I made at the time.  Perhaps that will be revealing.

Is there a copy 3.0.1 posted somewhere?

Jerry

Macintosh Repository has the 3.0.1 iso but it's a sit file that I'm fighting with. I'm hoping basilisk ii can deal with it.

Sometimes for a quick unstuffing or whatever, I've had success using https://system7.app or https://macos8.app. Saves having to install an emulator locally. See sticky notes on the desktop for info on how to get files in and out.

Hello NeXT Community:  I found my original 3.0.2 Mathematica while looking for something else today , I think we had paid $1500 back in the Day .  So officially February 9th , 2023 is 30 years in the NeXT Business for me.  Here is the CDR I made for you all of Mathematica 3.0.2  and a link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nMaRVa2iEXOah_hdN1gZIAqhXohX11hS/view?usp=share_link   , It has all the different platforms look under Unix for the NeXT Versions :) Thanks for keeping the lights on here at blackholeinc.com and computerpowwow on eBay.  You can always buy me a coffee paypal to glenblessin@yahoo.com  Enjoy! Best regards Rob Blessin   This was the official last version for NeXTSTEP :) let me know if it works or if you need help as always.

Thank you for this! I greatly appreciate it.

I added it to the SCSI disk list in Previous 2.5 on Windows 10 and 2.7 on Linux Mint 21.1

It mounted the disk, and I started browsing the disk but, in both cases, something quickly caused workplace manager to crash me out to the login screen.

If this is due to simply being a cdr rather than a physical cd, I'll have to wait to buy media a week from Friday (payday :) )

I do note that I have not had any issues with iso files in Previous.

Plus I'll still need to figure out the mathid question but that's a different crazy ;)

Quote from: Rob Blessin Black Hole on February 08, 2023, 09:15:50 PMHello NeXT Community:  I found my original 3.0.2 Mathematica while looking for something else today , I think we had paid $1500 back in the Day .  So officially February 9th , 2023 is 30 years in the NeXT Business for me.  Here is the CDR I made for you all of Mathematica 3.0.2  and a link https://drive.google.com/file/d/12CjfwNL8kndYIVpRW9R3BUrLbnkYAapM/view?usp=sharing  , It has all the different platforms look under Unix for the NeXT Versions :) Thanks for keeping the lights on here at blackholeinc.com and computerpowwow on eBay.  You can always buy me a coffee paypal to glenblessin@yahoo.com  Enjoy! Best regards Rob Blessin  This was the official last version for NeXTSTEP :) let me know if it works or if you need help as always.

Congrats on 30 years in the NeXT business Rob!

Quote from: wlewisiii on February 08, 2023, 10:44:05 PMThank you for this! I greatly appreciate it.

I added it to the SCSI disk list in Previous 2.5 on Windows 10 and 2.7 on Linux Mint 21.1

It mounted the disk, and I started browsing the disk but, in both cases, something quickly caused workplace manager to crash me out to the login screen.

If this is due to simply being a cdr rather than a physical cd, I'll have to wait to buy media a week from Friday (payday :) )

I do note that I have not had any issues with iso files in Previous.

Plus I'll still need to figure out the mathid question but that's a different crazy ;)

Try this link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nMaRVa2iEXOah_hdN1gZIAqhXohX11hS/view?usp=share_link  I went back and reformatted , this iso is made from a customer pdf file converted using anytoiso.app and I tried it and it seems to work in Previous , where the other cdr version I mad earlier had workspace manager crash issues :)

There might be an issue with Previous, I tried several images and sometimes I was able to install just fine and other times I'd get either workspace crashing or other weirdness.

Quote from: spitfire on September 29, 2021, 08:33:27 PMSelect European style license and enter your mathid and license number. If you don't have a license number there should be an example mathpass file with a license number you can use.

I can see my MathID on the registration window of Mathematica, but where do I get the license number? I couldn't find the mathpass file anywhere either.

At least in Mathematica 2.2 there's an example mathpass in Mathematica.app/Install/mathpass
for a machine called "Kernighan" L2093-8764. Try that as your license.

You can use the GUI mathematica license installer or the script in Mathematica.app/Install/ to install a license.

Ok, follow up.

The 3.0.2 iso has all of the file names squashed to lowercase. All of the exectuable bits have been stripped off as well. I've tried making a tarball to put the files on my data drive but it still fails to run the installer because of those issues.

The 3.0.0 iso I have ran fine from the command line. That also gave me the mathid needed to successfully license the install using the app from this thread. Once installed, however, I am unable to find a Mathematica.app for version 3 anywhere on the disk. The one in NextApps started up my copy of 2.0 I copied the Mathematica executable from the CD and after a bit of puttering it runs from the command line and the couple of expressions I tried evaluated correctly.

I tried reinstalling 3.0.0 after renaming the NextApps Mathematica.app M2.app to see if it created a Mathematica.app then. It found the license info so that was left alone. No app but it runs fine from the executable in /usr/local/mathematica or the one I copied to /usr/local/bin though I am having path issues (&*%&# csh). 

EDIT: Path issues due to still being su'd to root for the install. Fine after exiting to the Me user. Do'oh. Too used to bash. Need to adjust my account.

Hope this info is of interest/help to someone else.

On Mathematica 3.0 if you cd into /usr/local/matheamtica execute "open ." then drag the mathematica icon onto your dock, that will work nicely.

Yay! Thanks for the tip  8)

Hi All,
I recently scored a nice boxed version of Mathematica 3.0, complete of everything.
Package is officially for the Macintosh, but the box reads that installers for other platforms (including NeXTSTEP) are available on the CD. Which is true, but none of the installers seem to work, with the shell script stopping and raising an issue about some non existing path.
Any hint? Am I missing something?

(Back at the time when I was an engineering student, I used to like Mathematica, but all my true, eternal love :-) goes to Matlab, unfortunately never ported to NeXTSTEP).

Quote from: paolo.bertolo on May 16, 2023, 05:08:35 PM(Back at the time when I was an engineering student, I used to like Mathematica, but all my true, eternal love :-) goes to Matlab, unfortunately never ported to NeXTSTEP).

There is a Matlab amiga port with the fortran source code at http://aminet.net/misc/math/Matlab.lha

I studied Mechanical engineering and did a computer paper a couple of years ago and had to learn basic Matlab. Just used the DOS version on winworldpc and DOSBox, didn't see the point of downloading the 1GB version if all I was doing was basic MatLab stuff and the DOS version which was less than 1MB was good for the job.

I loaded the source back into the current one at school so I could smash that output to pdf function so I could hand in my assignments.

Quote from: paolo.bertolo on May 16, 2023, 05:08:35 PMwith the shell script stopping and raising an issue about some non existing path.

Hi @paolo.bertolo , maybe the exact error message / path can help identify what is missing.
What is the NeXT hardware (black, white, ...) you are trying the install for, what is the OS?

Quote from: nuss on May 17, 2023, 01:15:31 AMHi @paolo.bertolo , maybe the exact error message / path can help identify what is missing.
What is the NeXT hardware (black, white, ...) you are trying the install for, what is the OS?

Yes, I agree it could help.

So, here we go...

I get the same error (see screen grab) on a NeXT Computer 030 with NeXTSTEP 3.3 and on an HP 712, also with NS 3.3 on it.

I think it's not some kind of "bug", it would be gross, maybe I'm just missing the point about the "installers", as I strongly doubt alle these different versions would fit in just one CD ROM.

Unfortunately, I could not find any hint in the printed documentation.

Thanks in advance for any suggestion.

 

Quote from: pTeK on May 16, 2023, 09:11:44 PMThere is a Matlab amiga port with the fortran source code at http://aminet.net/misc/math/Matlab.lha

I will give a look at that, thanks.

In fact, I already have a v1.0 copy compiled and running on the NeXT. I believe it's totally unofficial, as there's no record (at least not that I could find any) of official releases for the NeXT platform.

For many years, even Macintosh versions were no longer released, as the business case was not there.

Anyhow, Matlab is a wonderful programming environment for scientists and engineers, I am professionally developing software based on Matlab since almost 20 years now.

Mathematica is a beauty, but covers a very different user base.

25 may 1982, ported to NeXT on 30 Nov 1991...

Quote from: wlewisiii on February 08, 2023, 05:09:55 PMMacintosh Repository has the 3.0.1 iso but it's a sit file that I'm fighting with. I'm hoping basilisk ii can deal with it.

This might work, about to try myself in Debian...
https://theunarchiver.com/command-line

So, the CD of the "Macintosh" version contains the installer scripts of all unix versions.
However, for some reason, the actual files for the all NeXT platforms are not present on the disk.
(As a matter of fact, the box and the CD rom are reading that installers are available for many other platforms, but they are not explicitly listing "NeXT". Still, the installation scripts are present on the CD).

The image of 3.0.2 version linked by Rob is defective, if I try to mount it I get an error and if I force burn it to a CD, the operation fails, too.

Does anyone have a good image of the installer of the Unix versions?

Quote from: paolo.bertolo on May 21, 2023, 04:04:03 AMThe image of 3.0.2 version linked by Rob is defective, if I try to mount it I get an error and if I force burn it to a CD, the operation fails, too.

Hmm, I can mount Rob's image on my macOS system, it seems to be a regular ISO9660 image.

Quote from: cuby on May 21, 2023, 04:42:01 AMHmm, I can mount Rob's image on my macOS system, it seems to be a regular ISO9660 image.

There are two links in this thread, I've tried both. Download goes fine, but the image is garbled somewhere and I can't mount it. If I burn it, during verification phase I get an error.

Quote from: paolo.bertolo on May 21, 2023, 05:21:17 AMThere are two links in this thread, I've tried both. Download goes fine, but the image is garbled somewhere and I can't mount it. If I burn it, during verification phase I get an error.

You need to get Mathematica_3.0.0.iso_.zip from https://www.macintoshrepository.org/681-mathematica-3
You want the one that says it is 166.59 MB, I tried some of the other dumps on that page and they were missing the NeXT files (probably imaged incorrectly). This one worked for me with the keygen for windows in this thread. You need to find the app after installation, as detailed in the thread, also start the installer from the command line, do not simply double click the script file. I tested this in OPENSTEP 4.2 for Intel. Not sure if it will work for NeXT hardware but there you go.

Quote from: wizard on May 21, 2023, 05:30:26 PMYou need to get Mathematica_3.0.0.iso_.zip from https://www.macintoshrepository.org/681-mathematica-3
You want the one that says it is 166.59 MB, I tried some of the other dumps on that page and they were missing the NeXT files (probably imaged incorrectly). This one worked for me with the keygen for windows in this thread. You need to find the app after installation, as detailed in the thread, also start the installer from the command line, do not simply double click the script file. I tested this in OPENSTEP 4.2 for Intel. Not sure if it will work for NeXT hardware but there you go.

That is what worked for me on Previous, from the command line as well.

Quote from: wlewisiii on May 22, 2023, 07:19:48 PMThat is what worked for me on Previous, from the command line as well.

Thank you for the tip. However, once the download is completed and the image unzipped, I can't do much with it, MacOS is telling me it's an unrecognized format.
Am I missing something?

Quote from: paolo.bertolo on May 26, 2023, 07:12:58 PMThank you for the tip. However, once the download is completed and the image unzipped, I can't do much with it, MacOS is telling me it's an unrecognized format.
Am I missing something?

You want to mount in the emulator, not in your host OS (MacOS).

Quote from: wizard on May 27, 2023, 07:56:11 AMYou want to mount in the emulator, not in your host OS (MacOS).

So, I managed to create a working physical copy (CD ROM) of the image linked at macintosh repository.
By default, it seems as though Mac OS is not able to mount or burn the image, but using some third party tool I managed to.

It's now installed on my Cube 030 (took forever).

Still struggling with the password: the one in the original license certificate I have is not valid for this installation...

Quote from: paolo.bertolo on May 28, 2023, 07:56:07 AMSo, I managed to create a working physical copy (CD ROM) of the image linked at macintosh repository.
By default, it seems as though Mac OS is not able to mount or burn the image, but using some third party tool I managed to.

It's now installed on my Cube 030 (took forever).

Still struggling with the password: the one in the original license certificate I have is not valid for this installation...

Try the generator linked in this thread.

Does anyone have an image of 3.0.2 version available at this point? The earlier shared link is dead and it is unclear whether it worked or not. Thanks.

I have a copy of Mathematica 3.0.2 but I'm not sure how I'd share it with someone in 2023....

Perhaps we need a semi-private NeXT fileserver/FTP site.

I'd be interested in a download, too.

Okay, Enough people are thumbs upping my post. Where and how should I get an image out there?

I also would be interested in a download.

All the best,
Kokomuck

Quote from: spitfire on September 11, 2024, 02:23:02 PMWhere and how should I get an image out there?

How about uploading it to the most universal archival site currently existing, which is archive.org?

See archive.org/create (https://archive.org/create/) and just follow the steps once being registered as uploader.

There already is a wealth of NeXTSTEP related content over there and your upload would be in excellent company.

Quote from: wmlive on November 14, 2024, 12:01:59 PMHow about uploading it to the most universal archival site currently existing, which is archive.org?

See archive.org/create (https://archive.org/create/) and just follow the steps once being registered as uploader.

There already is a wealth of NeXTSTEP related content over there and your upload would be in excellent company.

Would it be illegal to put it here in the files section?

Quote from: kokomuck on November 14, 2024, 01:07:34 PMWould it be illegal to put it here in the files section?

Archive.org is a better choice.

I can do that, or upload it to archive.org.

I've got the 3.0.2 ISO here on my computer.

Alright, who should I contact to get an upload to nextfiles?
I assume there's no FTP incoming directory like the old days.

Finally got around to it. I've uploaded V2.2, V3.0, and V3.0.4 ISOs.
Here's the link. LMK if it works for y'all.

https://archive.org/details/mathematica-nextstep-3.0.0

It wouldn't download. Said problems with items content.

If you expand the "ISO Image" item on the right hand side you can click each file and download them.
I just did this and the files came out find.

Neat thing is both the V2.2 and v3.0.2 have all four Next architectures supported.

Quote from: spitfire on November 24, 2024, 03:34:24 PMFinally got around to it. I've uploaded V2.2, V3.0, and V3.0.4 ISOs.
Here's the link. LMK if it works for y'all.

https://archive.org/details/mathematica-nextstep-3.0.0

Downloads OK, thanks a lot!
I have the complete box of v3.0 for the Mac, which also includes the installers for some other platforms, but not for the NeXT (on the CDs, there's the installer script for the NeXT, too, but not the actual software).