NeXTstep 2.2 devtools + Netboot on a NeXTstation?

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Title: NeXTstep 2.2 devtools + Netboot on a NeXTstation?
Post by: NCommander on July 09, 2022, 09:15:19 PM
I recently picked up a NeXTstation, and would like to put NeXTstep 2.x on it for a project (in this case, I'm going with 2.x for a period specific thing I want to explore). Is it possible to netinstall 2.2? There doesn't seem to be a dedicated .app to creating a NetInstall environment like on 3.3, although presumably its possible.

Secondly, is GCC available? It seems only the devtools from 3.3 have been archived in any fashion, which, if that's the case, is a bit tragic.
Title: Re: NeXTstep 2.2 devtools + Netboot on a NeXTstation?
Post by: Noth on July 10, 2022, 03:59:29 PM
You can probably serve 2.2 netinstall from 3.3 running in a VM on your lan with a bridged interface. As for the dev tools... I don't think I've seen them for any release but 3.3 unfortunately.
Title: Re: NeXTstep 2.2 devtools + Netboot on a NeXTstation?
Post by: Rob Blessin Black Hole on July 12, 2022, 11:56:00 PM
I found these downloads https://winworldpc.com/product/nextstep/2x

Not sure if the dev tools are bundled and NeXTSTEP 3.3 was the first version with network install.

 Best Regards Rob Blessin
Title: Re: NeXTstep 2.2 devtools + Netboot on a NeXTstation?
Post by: mikeboss on July 13, 2022, 02:51:48 AM
Quote from: Rob Blessin Black Hole on July 12, 2022, 11:56:00 PMI found these downloads https://winworldpc.com/product/nextstep/2x
Not sure if the dev tools are bundled and NeXTSTEP 3.3 was the first version with network install.

I did not upload these to winworldpc.com but all the downloads named "Nextstep 2.x HD Image With Previous" contain the images I created years ago. and they don't have devtools installed...
Title: Re: NeXTstep 2.2 devtools + Netboot on a NeXTstation?
Post by: NCommander on July 17, 2022, 02:09:51 AM
Benefit to the next person who finds this: The devtools for 2.2 are actually on the CD. I suspect its the same tools from 2.0->2.2 from what I can see. There's an installer program on the boot floppy which can load it. Also, all the updates for NeXT 2.0 to 2.1 and 2.2 are on the disk.

You're welcome future searchers :)
Title: Re: NeXTstep 2.2 devtools + Netboot on a NeXTstation?
Post by: Noth on July 17, 2022, 01:38:21 PM
Did you get the NeXTstation to netboot?
Title: Re: NeXTstep 2.2 devtools + Netboot on a NeXTstation?
Post by: Rob Blessin Black Hole on July 20, 2022, 08:50:07 PM
Hello NeXT Community:   The coolest thing I recall lol imho about a NeXTSTEP 3.3 Network install is when it proclaims "excuse me while I kiss the sky" then starts the install.   

Here is some NeXT source on github https://github.com/search?q=user%3Ajohnsonjh%20nextstep&fbclid=IwAR3sTPtABfVq4Rd85vL_k-U83xLOWqA_IlCqXU0S2BdUXVepWe9ZYqAY1S4   which mat help the taking the NeXTstep project.

I often wondered is NeXT / Apple 68K hardware would be able to run tweaked Rhapsody aka NeXTSTEP/Openstep 5.0 or if all of the 68K code was removed . It immediately ejects the disk I tried..
Title: Re: NeXTstep 2.2 devtools + Netboot on a NeXTstation?
Post by: cuby on July 21, 2022, 01:14:15 AM
Quote from: Rob Blessin Black Hole on July 20, 2022, 08:50:07 PMI often wondered is NeXT / Apple 68K hardware would be able to run tweaked Rhapsody aka NeXTSTEP/Openstep 5.0 or if all of the 68K code was removed . It immediately ejects the disk I tried..

The 68k code was removed - at least there is almost no trace of it in the earliest published sources (Darwin 0.1 (https://archive.org/details/darwin_0.1), which is derived from Rhapsody 5.3, I think).

I'm wondering if the NeXTstep code that can be found on github was part of the official NeXTstep source code that universities could order or if this is simply a leak from somewhere.

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