NeXT Thin Ethernet with Termination

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Title: NeXT Thin Ethernet with Termination
Post by: user341 on July 27, 2022, 04:05:39 PM
Hi.

Does anyone have some photos of the thin ethernet connecting to the back of a cube/station.

It was a little T junction and you either route another cable on the other side of the T or put a terminator on it. What was great about it was, you didnt need a line running from a central hub to each device, but could go from device to device and just terminate the end.

I cannot find any photos of it. I used to have tons of the stuff but am afraid I lost it over the years.

Thanks for any pointers/help.
Title: Re: NeXT Thin Ethernet with Termination
Post by: nextchef on July 27, 2022, 05:40:32 PM
I assume youu need a picture of one attached specifically to a cube or station?
Title: Re: NeXT Thin Ethernet with Termination
Post by: user341 on July 27, 2022, 08:03:13 PM
It's ok if it's not attached, but if one is attached, that's even better. If I recall, NeXT used to have an "official" EPS clip art collection of all their products and that was in there too. Hmm, does anyone know if that's stored in one of our archives?

LOL, I found it in my personal archive:

Sadly we cannot attach photos in this forum. Only links to photos. Shame.
Title: Re: NeXT Thin Ethernet with Termination
Post by: Nitro on July 27, 2022, 08:59:19 PM
Quote from: zombie on July 27, 2022, 08:03:13 PMIt's ok if it's not attached, but if one is attached, that's even better. If I recall, NeXT used to have an "official" EPS clip art collection of all their products and that was in there too. Hmm, does anyone know if that's stored in one of our archives?

LOL, I found it in my personal archive:

Sadly we cannot attach photos in this forum. Only links to photos. Shame.


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Title: Re: NeXT Thin Ethernet with Termination
Post by: user341 on July 28, 2022, 07:25:52 AM
Here is an image of what it looked like. The cable used to come on a  big spool. Also the terminator was prettier. It looked a bit like the megapixel monitor feet. A bit ribbed.
Title: Re: NeXT Thin Ethernet with Termination
Post by: nextchef on July 28, 2022, 02:58:47 PM
Are you saying that NeXT had their own custom designed version of the BNC "T" adapters and terminators?
Why does that not surprise me, as they had their own branded power cables.
Title: Re: NeXT Thin Ethernet with Termination
Post by: mikeboss on July 28, 2022, 03:29:59 PM
https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FblTvitq.png

https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.next.marketplace/c/NR5G7IQMHzM/m/w4p-LvmsmbgJ
Title: Re: NeXT Thin Ethernet with Termination
Post by: Theta-K7 on July 29, 2022, 04:41:04 AM
Quote from: zombie on July 27, 2022, 04:05:39 PMWhat was great about it was, you didnt need a line running from a central hub to each device, but could go from device to device and just terminate the end.

Of course this was also what was terrible about it.   ;D
Title: Re: NeXT Thin Ethernet with Termination
Post by: user341 on July 29, 2022, 03:31:26 PM
Depends on your application. Think about a wire harness in a car. It adds incredible weight and complexity having a hub/spoke design. By just having a single line, you literally reduce the weight of the car by over a hundred pounds.

The McLaren Artura is one of the first cars to take on this design.
Title: Re: NeXT Thin Ethernet with Termination
Post by: nextchef on July 29, 2022, 06:18:52 PM
It was a real PITA when one machine on the loop had a NIC that would flake out and flood everyone off the network, or someone decided for some reason to move a machine and forgot to connect things back together.  Many a time walking from office to office or calling people to try and narrow down where the problem was.
Title: Re: NeXT Thin Ethernet with Termination
Post by: user341 on July 30, 2022, 10:05:21 AM
Very true. No doubt, for modern applications in offices/homes, the current hub/spoke model is better. But there are a few applications where that old model is still better. The car/plane application where you want to reduce weight. Impromptu LAN parties!

Also, one of the things you could do with a termination model like that today is, if you use fiber optics, you don't have just a single line. You could easily put 10 fiberoptic threads in less than the thickness weight of a single copper line. So you could have an optic coupler that reads any one of the 10 lines for redundancy, so even if one fails you have the others carrying over for redundancy.

But still a bit like Christmas tree lights with regard to really big/bad intermediary failures.

Also, granted, way more niche applications.
Title: Re: NeXT Thin Ethernet with Termination
Post by: crimsonRE on July 31, 2022, 04:44:32 PM
Fine for a small home LAN with elderly computers. I have a NeXTComputer cube, a Sun SPARCstation IPC and a couple of SGI Indigos networked together with 10B-2, and an old CentreCom hub that has a 10B-2 BNC connector (in addition to 10B-T) to bring them into the rest of the house LAN...fun to have more of the older tech around (but vastly easier than dealing with ThickNet!).
Title: Re: NeXT Thin Ethernet with Termination
Post by: pergamon on August 29, 2022, 10:58:03 PM
Quote from: mikeboss on July 28, 2022, 03:29:59 PMhttps%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FblTvitq.png
Hah!  That's from my old nextstuff.info site.  Which... atrophied and I let the domain expire.  But I just got it back because of this post :)

Now to actually get the content back up...
Title: Re: NeXT Thin Ethernet with Termination
Post by: pergamon on August 29, 2022, 11:16:58 PM
And yes, I happen to have one.
Title: Re: NeXT Thin Ethernet with Termination
Post by: mikeboss on August 30, 2022, 01:11:52 AM
Quote from: pergamon on August 29, 2022, 10:58:03 PMHah!  That's from my old nextstuff.info site.  Which... atrophied and I let the domain expire.  But I just got it back because of this post :)

Now to actually get the content back up...

luckily, I made a backup when it was still online ;-)
Title: Re: NeXT Thin Ethernet with Termination
Post by: eagle on August 30, 2022, 06:56:23 AM
Wow, that's so cool -- I never knew about this!

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