Tualatin PIII Rig

Here are benchmarks from my current Rig

Jetway 694TAS PIII 1.2 Ghz (soon to be 1.4)
960 Mb Ram
Adaptec 2940UW Pro Scsi
Sound Blaster AWE64
Smc 9332 PCI Ethernet

It's been educational learning about disktabs.. hosed a few installs..


RESULTS.RTF
 

Upgraded to PIII 1.4 Cpu

Disk Speed Index went up by 10... not bad.


LOGS.RTF

The Drive Performance index varies between drives 70.49 was on a Seagate Cheetah ST3188404LW

Might as well post my Disktabs incase they can hep someone out. Caveat emptor..

ATLASU320_18_WLS|MAXTOR ATLASU320_18_WLS|MAXTOR ATLASU320_18_WLS-512:\
    :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#31022:nt#2:ns#578:ss#512:rm#10000:\
    :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
    :os=mach_kernel:z0#64:z1:192:hn=mordor:ro=a:\
    :pa#63:sa#8388608:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#4:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
    :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:\
    :pb#8388671:sb#8388608:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#4:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\
    :ib:tb=4.3BSD:ab:\
    :pc#16777279:sc#8388608:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#4:dc#4096:rc#10:oc=time:\
    :ic:tc=4.3BSD:ac:\
    :pd#25165887:sd#8388608:bd#8192:fd#1024:cd#4:dd#4096:rd#10:od=time:\
    :id:td=4.3BSD:ad:
QUANTUM|QUANTUM ATLAS 10K 18WLS|QUANTUM ATLAS 10K 18WLS-512:\
    :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#10042:nt#12:ns#298:ss#512:rm#10000:\
    :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
    :os=mach_kernel:z0#64:z1:192:hn=mordor:ro=a:\
    :pa#63:sa#8388608:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#4:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
    :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:\
    :pb#8388671:sb#8388608:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#4:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\
    :ib:tb=4.3BSD:ab:\
    :pc#16777279:sc#8388608:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#4:dc#4096:rc#10:oc=time:\
    :ic:tc=4.3BSD:ac:\
    :pd#25165887:sd#8388608:bd#8192:fd#1024:cd#4:dd#4096:rd#10:od=time:\
    :id:td=4.3BSD:ad:
WD183|WDIGTL WD183 ULTRA2|WDIGTL WD183 ULTRA2 1.0-512:\
    :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#13614:nt#8:ns#354:ss#512:rm#10000:\
    :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
    :os=mach_kernel:z0#64:z1:192:hn=mordor:ro=a:\
    :pa#63:sa#8388608:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#4:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
    :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:\
    :pb#8388671:sb#8388608:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#4:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\
    :ib:tb=4.3BSD:ab:\
    :pc#16777279:sc#8388608:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#4:dc#4096:rc#10:oc=time:\
    :ic:tc=4.3BSD:ac:\
    :pd#25165887:sd#8388608:bd#8192:fd#1024:cd#4:dd#4096:rd#10:od=time:\
    :id:td=4.3BSD:ad:
ST318404LW|SEAGATE ST318404LW|SEAGATE ST318404LW 0006-512:\
    :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#14384:nt#6:ns#420:ss#512:rm#10000:\
    :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
    :os=mach_kernel:z0#64:z1:192:hn=mordor:ro=a:\
    :pa#63:sa#8388608:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#4:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
    :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:\
    :pb#8388671:sb#8388608:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#4:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\
    :ib:tb=4.3BSD:ab:\
    :pc#16777279:sc#8388608:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#4:dc#4096:rc#10:oc=time:\
    :ic:tc=4.3BSD:ac:\
    :pd#25165887:sd#8388608:bd#8192:fd#1024:cd#4:dd#4096:rd#10:od=time:\
    :id:td=4.3BSD:ad:
ST39102LW|SEAGATE ST39102LW|SEAGATE ST39102LW 0005L-512:\
    :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#6962:nt#12:ns#214:ss#512:rm#10000:\
    :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
    :os=mach_kernel:z0#64:z1:192:hn=mordor:ro=a:\
    :pa#63:sa#8388608:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#4:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
    :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:\
    :pb#8388671:sb#8388608:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#4:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\
    :ib:tb=4.3BSD:ab:
ATLAS10K3|ATLAS10K3_18_S|HP 18.2G ATLAS10K3_18_S-512:\
    :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#31022:nt#2:ns#579:ss#512:rm#10000:\
    :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
    :os=mach_kernel:z0#64:z1:192:hn=mordor:ro=a:\
    :pa#63:sa#8388608:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#4:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
    :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:\
    :pb#8388671:sb#8388608:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#4:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\
    :ib:tb=4.3BSD:ab:\
    :pc#16777279:sc#8388608:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#4:dc#4096:rc#10:oc=time:\
    :ic:tc=4.3BSD:ac:\
    :pd#25165887:sd#8388608:bd#8192:fd#1024:cd#4:dd#4096:rd#10:od=time:\
    :id:td=4.3BSD:ad:
AH3182MP|FUJITSU MAH3182MP0|UJITSU M AH3182MP 0 114-512:\
    :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#17546:nt#4:ns#648:ss#512:rm#10000:\
    :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
    :os=mach_kernel:z0#64:z1:192:hn=mordor:ro=a:\
    :pa#63:sa#8388608:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#4:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
    :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:\
    :pb#8388671:sb#8388608:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#4:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\
    :ib:tb=4.3BSD:ab:\
    :pc#16777279:sc#8388608:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#4:dc#4096:rc#10:oc=time:\
    :ic:tc=4.3BSD:ac:\
    :pd#25165887:sd#8388608:bd#8192:fd#1024:cd#4:dd#4096:rd#10:od=time:\
    :id:td=4.3BSD:ad:
IBM-ESXS|VPR036W3-ETS10|IBM-ESXS VPR036W3-ETS10-512:\
    :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#34401:nt#3:ns#840:ss#512:rm#10000:\
    :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
    :os=mach_kernel:z0#64:z1:192:hn=mordor:ro=a:\
    :pa#63:sa#8388608:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#4:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
    :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:\
    :pb#8388671:sb#8388608:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#4:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\
    :ib:tb=4.3BSD:ab:\
    :pc#16777279:sc#8388608:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#4:dc#4096:rc#10:oc=time:\
    :ic:tc=4.3BSD:ac:\
    :pd#25165887:sd#8388608:bd#8192:fd#1024:cd#4:dd#4096:rd#10:od=time:\
    :id:td=4.3BSD:ad:\
    :pe#33554495:se#8388608:be#8192:fe#1024:ce#4:de#4096:re#10:oe=time:\
    :ie:te=4.3BSD:ae:\
    :pf#41943103:sf#8388608:bf#8192:ff#1024:cf#4:df#4096:rf#10:of=time:\
    :if:tf=4.3BSD:af:\
    :pg#50331711:sg#8388608:bg#8192:fg#1024:cg#4:dg#4096:rg#10:og=time:\
    :ig:tg=4.3BSD:ag:

DISKTAB.RTF

You get better drive performance than I am getting under VirtualBox

Could it be the Scsi controller? I wonder what the difference between an Adaptec 2940UW and a Adaptec 2940UW pro.

Quote from: Apple2guy on April 27, 2023, 01:35:48 AMCould it be the Scsi controller? I wonder what the difference between an Adaptec 2940UW and a Adaptec 2940UW pro.

I am using an IDE controller on VirtualBox, have not tried SCSCI, but could be worth a try?

It should work with Buslogic scsi..

Yep Buslogic Scsi works in Virtualbox.

It is smoking fast.....



LOGS.RTF 

I switched to it, but could not boot. I can add a second SCSI drive , which works fine (and seems fast). But I can not boot from a SCSI drive (just IDE). When I try to boot from SCSI ,
I am getting these errors on boot :
Can't open /dev/rhd0a
mount /dev/hd0a on / : No such device
mount: giving up on:
/

You can't just switch the controller without reconfiguring Openstep. You need to remove the ide device and add the BusLogic pci scsi device before re configuring the virtual machine to be scsi. You want he HD to be SCSI 0 and the cdrom needs to be a higher id. I normally use id 6 or 15.

the mount /dev/hd0a means it is still configured to Loog for an ide boot device.
ide devices are /dev/hdxa /dev/rhdxa
scsi devices are /dev/sdxa /dev/rsdxa  (where x = device number starting at 0)

I did my install on a 2 gb image. Updated to patch 4 then used a custom disktab to partition a second larger scsi drive. Then I used dump to clone my boot drive to the second drive. Then I re-configured the second drive as the first. After that it will boot create a swap then reboot.

Quote from: Apple2guy on April 28, 2023, 10:51:44 PMYou can't just switch the controller without reconfiguring Openstep. You need to remove the ide device and add the BusLogic pci scsi device before re configuring the virtual machine to be scsi. You want he HD to be SCSI 0 and the cdrom needs to be a higher id. I normally use id 6 or 15.

the mount /dev/hd0a means it is still configured to Loog for an ide boot device.
ide devices are /dev/hdxa /dev/rhdxa
scsi devices are /dev/sdxa /dev/rsdxa  (where x = device number starting at 0)

I did my install on a 2 gb image. Updated to patch 4 then used a custom disktab to partition a second larger scsi drive. Then I used dump to clone my boot drive to the second drive. Then I re-configured the second drive as the first. After that it will boot create a swap then reboot.

Thanks for the info. When you say IT is configured to for ide boot device, is there a configuration file? I did add the scsi controller (with no drives) to the VM, booted the VM, and added the SCSI driver (it was detected) in OPENSTEP, removed the ide driver in OPENSTEP, shut down the VM and then changed the drives to use the SCSI device in the VM config. I also removed the IDE controller in the VM. Still get the error about /dev/hd0a.

Yes the bootloader that was installed to the image is configured to boot ide.
This article may help... https://www.nextcomputers.org/NeXTfiles/Docs/NeXTStep/3.3/nsa/09_StartShut.htmld/index.html

It may be easier to do a new install on scsi..

Ok, well I made a backup copy of my VM and thought I would try editing /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab, replacing them with sd0a instead of hd0a. Managed to boot up and login. Got much better numbers!




Only weird thing is at login there is a long pause of perhaps a minute or more before the Workspace Manager and Dock appears. I will keep looking as to what might be causing that long delay. I saw the log said Failure Setting Background Color, not sure if that is related. After you login and that pause , everything is much snappier though!

Congrats!! Ahh now its obvious why it wasn't booting..
My VM has the same pause..

Updated the rig to a 15k RPM drive and enabled Command Queueing (only approx 1/3 of my scsi drives work with queueing)



FUJITSU|FUJITSU MAS3367NP 0103A|FUJITSU MAS3367NP 0103A-512:\
    :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#27150:nt#4:ns#705:ss#512:rm#15000:\
    :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
    :os=mach_kernel:z0#64:z1:192:hn=mordor:ro=a:\
    :pa#63:sa#8388608:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#4:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
    :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:\
    :pb#8388671:sb#8388608:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#4:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\
    :ib:tb=4.3BSD:ab:\
    :pc#16777279:sc#8388608:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#4:dc#4096:rc#10:oc=time:\
    :ic:tc=4.3BSD:ac:\
    :pd#25165887:sd#8388608:bd#8192:fd#1024:cd#4:dd#4096:rd#10:od=time:\
    :id:td=4.3BSD:ad:\
    :pe#33554495:se#8388608:be#8192:fe#1024:ce#4:de#4096:re#10:oe=time:\
    :ie:te=4.3BSD:ae:\
    :pf#41943103:sf#8388608:bf#8192:ff#1024:cf#4:df#4096:rf#10:of=time:\
    :if:tf=4.3BSD:af:\
    :pg#50331711:sg#8388608:bg#8192:fg#1024:cg#4:dg#4096:rg#10:og=time:\
    :ig:tg=4.3BSD:ag:

May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: NeXT Mach 4.2: Tue Jan 26 11:21:50 PST 1999; root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk-183.34.4.obj~2/RELEASE_I386
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: physical memory = 958.00 megabytes.
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: using 255 buffers containing 1.99 megabytes of memory
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: available memory = 943.61 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = 1d7ce
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: PCI Ver=2.10 BusCount=2 Features=[ BIOS16 CM1 SC1 ]
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Found PCI 2.0 device: ID=0x06911106 at Dev=0 Func=0 Bus=0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Found PCI 2.0 device: ID=0x85981106 at Dev=1 Func=0 Bus=0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Found PCI 2.1 device: ID=0x06861106/0x00001106 at Dev=7 Func=0 Bus=0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Found PCI 2.0 device: ID=0x30571106 at Dev=7 Func=4 Bus=0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Found PCI 2.1 device: ID=0x87789004/0x78879004 at Dev=9 Func=0 Bus=0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Found PCI 2.1 device: ID=0x00351033/0x00351033 at Dev=10 Func=0 Bus=0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Found PCI 2.1 device: ID=0x00351033/0x00351033 at Dev=10 Func=1 Bus=0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Found PCI 2.0 device: ID=0x00091011 at Dev=11 Func=0 Bus=0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Found PCI 2.1 device: ID=0x0525102b/0x217d102b at Dev=0 Func=0 Bus=1
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: PCI bus support enabled
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: PnP: Plug and Play support enabled
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: PnP: Plug and Play BIOS present
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: PnP: read port 0x20b, max csn 1
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: PnP: csn 1: CTL00e4 s/n 0x1920ba48
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: ISA/EISA bus support enabled
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: ISA bus
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: DriverKit version 420
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: ISASerialPort0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: ISASerialPort0: Base=0x03f8, IRQ=4, Type=16550AF/C/CF, FIFO=16
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: PS2Controller
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: PCKeyboard0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: PCMCIA0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: PCI bus support enabled
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: PCI0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: EISA0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: fc0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: fd0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Adaptec 2940 Host Adapter found at Bus 0 Device 9
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: a2940_0: 16 Targets per Bus
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: a2940_0 at 0xdc00
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: sc0 at a2940_0 SCSI Bus 0 Target 7
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd0: FUJITSU MAS3367NP 0103
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: sd0 at Target 0 LUN 0 at sc0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd0: Device Capacity:  35068 MB
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd0: Disk Label:        Fujitsu
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd1: IBM-ESXS VPR036W3-ETS10FN S3C0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: sd1 at Target 1 LUN 0 at sc0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd1: Device Block Size: 512 bytes
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd1: Device Capacity:  34715 MB
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd1: Disk Label:        Backup
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd2: ZULUSCSI HARDDRIVE 2.0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: sd2 at Target 2 LUN 0 at sc0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd2: No Valid Disk Label
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd2: Device Block Size: 512 bytes
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd2: Device Capacity:  2048 MB
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd3: IBM-ESXS VPR036W3-ETS10 1.0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: sd3 at Target 3 LUN 0 at sc0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd3: Device Block Size: 512 bytes
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd3: Device Capacity:  34715 MB
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd3: Disk Label:        Zulu
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd4: HP DVD-ROM 305 1.01
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: sd4 at Target 6 LUN 0 at sc0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd4: Waiting for drive to come ready..............
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: sd4: Disk Not Ready
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: sg0 at sc0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: sg1 at sc0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: sg2 at sc0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: sg3 at sc0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: event0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: kmDevice0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: rootdev 600, howto 0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Power management is enabled.
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: PS2Mouse
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: pp0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: DECchip21140: PCI Dev: 11 Func: 0 Bus: 0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: en0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: DECchip21140 based adapter at port 0xe000 irq 11
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: DECchip21140 configured for 100BASE-TX (MII/SYM) interface
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type "10MB Ethernet"
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: en0: Ethernet address 00:00:c0:af:8b:e4
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: MatroxMGA Driver v1.0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Copyright (c) 1999-2005 Mirko Viviani
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach:
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Display: Mode selected: 1600 x 1200 @ 60 Hz (RGB:888/32)
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Display0: Matrox Millennium G400 AGP
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Display0: SGRAM size: 16 MB
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Display0: RAMDAC: 300 MHz
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: Display0
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: PnP: configuring Creative SB AWE64  PnP Audio
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: SBSoundMidi: Sound Blaster SB32 (ver 4.0) at port 0x220.
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: SBSoundMidi at dma channels 1 and 5 irq 5
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: Registering: SBSoundMidi
May  4 01:29:47 mordor mach: SBSoundMidi: License found. Enabling driver.
May  4 01:30:00 mordor reboot: Reboot complete
May  4 01:30:02 mordor loginwindow[212]: Checking for DOS partitioned disk
May  4 01:30:10 mordor loginwindow[214]: netname look up success: NeXT 4.0 Pasteboard Server (1)
May  4 01:30:10 mordor loginwindow[214]: running /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/Workspace
May  4 01:30:10 mordor Workspace[214]: logged in

SCSI information for /dev/rsd0h
Drive type: FUJITSU MAS3367NP 0103A
512 bytes per sector
705 sectors per track
4 tracks per cylinder
27150 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders)
168 spare sectors per cylinder
72 alternate tracks per volume
71819495 usable sectors on volume

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Quote from: Apple2guy on May 04, 2023, 06:51:38 AMCongrats!! Ahh now its obvious why it wasn't booting..
My VM has the same pause..

I see you get the same message too:
Apr 27 23:52:47 localhost loginwindow[181]: failure setting background color\

I think it may be that user preferences , at least that one, can not be applied by loginwindow. I would guess permissions as a problem, but I am a little baffled by what that has to do with SCSI. If you have the root drive as IDE you get no such message or pause. I also noticed, from looking at the log, the pause is exactly 60 seconds every time. Do you get the one minute pause and error message on real hardware?

So On my Laptop running Mint no delay on boot vesa graphics are fast.
On my Hackintosh a more powerful machine.. Vesa graphics are sloooow and it pauses about 10 sec when you see the background color show.