Found at
https://retrozone.ch/amiga/magazines/In Kickstart issue 6 from 1990 (
https://retrozone.ch/docs/amiga/kickstart/AmigaKickstart_90_06.pdf) the article "Steven Jobs' Traumrechner?!" starts at page 42.
It was a lot harder to design Graphical User Interfaces on the Amiga compared to NeXT (Well you had to pay $$$ for the developer version) and VisualBasic (Windows). I remember the first time I played with VisualBasic how you could just drop a button, resize it and add custom code, I thought it was amazing and definitely speeds up development time compared to the Amiga.
Yes there was Power Windows but compared to the drag and drop features of later developer IDEs which were intuitive.
I've never used BOOPSI on the Amiga but Gadtools looks like it can be used for cheap NeXT UI knockoffs especially when you swap topaz.font/8 with Helvetica.font/11 or 12 which would still slow down the 8MHz 68k because it was a non fixed font. Amiga OS 2 looked a lot more polished then Amiga OS 1.3.
Still it's amazing how Steve Jobs made a desktop look professional in 2 colours (Mac) and then 4 colours (NeXT Step).
Quote from: pTeK on July 02, 2023, 03:18:49 PMStill it's amazing how Steve Jobs made a desktop look professional in 2 colours (Mac) and then 4 colours (NeXT Step).
Exactly this 4 grayscale look (sharp and huge resolution) amazed me the most from the Data Becker book "Das große NeXT Buch" in 1991 and later on the real thing, my first 25MHz mono slab in 1993 :)
Steve Jobs' dream computer... well since it's m68k based I'm sure Amigans would agree :D
Yeah but a 68030@25Mhz is slowww!! I've installed Amix (Amiga AT&T SysVR4) on WinUAE and man it is slow.
68030@25Mhz maybe fast for the Amiga or Atari TOS maybe MacOS, but damn running a BSD/Unix....
Quote from: pTeK on July 05, 2023, 12:57:55 AM68030@25Mhz maybe fast for the Amiga or Atari TOS maybe MacOS, but damn running a BSD/Unix....
It depends a bit on the Unix system - a System V (R3/R4) implementation is not really fast, but older BSDs (I ran SunOS 4.1.1 on a 20 MHz 68020-based Sun 3/60 for years) or an older System V (A/UX on a IIci) were not too bad. I never ran NeXTstep on a 68030 Cube, but I would expect NeXTstep to be quite a bit more demanding...
We ran a whole group of X terminals (~15 folk) from a single Sun spark box back in the 90's. NeXTStep on a 68030 is actually pretty good, even with the DPS overhead. With a Dimension it can even do things modern machines can't do... like rendering half of a window in monochrome and the other half in color...
Hm, I have a 68030 Cube board here which I never used - all my Cubes have 040 boards installed.
Swapping in a 68030 board would not be difficult, but I wonder if anyone has tried running a Cube board standalone. Does it need more than power supplied on the NuBus connector?