https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwCdKU9uYnEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtpIFrOGTHkEdit: I just noticed that this post is a duplicate of one posted by Venture37 back in 2017. D'oh!
I was just going to post this.
Discussion about Next computers starts on Session 1 at about 1H 35M.
Here is the transscript of the videos as a PDF: Oral History of Avadis Tevanian - Transscript (
http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text/2017/06/102706885-05-01-acc.pdf)