Anyone (other than Rob) get their QuokkaNeXT yet? I ordered on right when they went up on RabbitHole and am still waiting, but am very excited for this option.
I'm surprised to see so little discussion of what seems like the most important recent development in the NeXT-universe.
Hi, I bought it from Rob, but I'm too busy these days to try it. As soon as I can get a USB keyboard (and some time) I'll let you know my impressions 8)
Quote from: krazycat on February 26, 2025, 03:21:40 PMHi, I bought it from Rob, but I'm too busy these days to try it. As soon as I can get a USB keyboard (and some time) I'll let you know my impressions 8)
Same here!
Quote from: legodude on February 21, 2025, 07:37:08 PMAnyone (other than Rob) get their QuokkaNeXT yet? I ordered on right when they went up on RabbitHole and am still waiting, but am very excited for this option.
I'm surprised to see so little discussion of what seems like the most important recent development in the NeXT-universe.
I did some tests, not all keyboards or mice work. I was only able to get it to work with a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse set (code MK330), because they have very low power consumption. I also tried to power the Quokka from the rear USB port, but unfortunately after a few minutes it burned out, damn... :o
Rob's YouTube video mentioned scroll wheel support being a possibility in the future. Has anyone figured out how this would work, considering virtually no NeXT apps support keyboard scrolling?
Quote from: Rhetorica on May 09, 2025, 11:43:47 AMRob's YouTube video mentioned scroll wheel support being a possibility in the future. Has anyone figured out how this would work, considering virtually no NeXT apps support keyboard scrolling?
A quick test in
https://infinitemac.org/1994/NeXTSTEP%203.3on windows, Alt+UP or DOWN, makes the terminal scroll, so, USB mouse scroll could be mapped to send Alt+UP/DOWN on NeXT
Quote from: ramalhais on May 28, 2025, 06:37:56 PMA quick test in https://infinitemac.org/1994/NeXTSTEP%203.3
on windows, Alt+UP or DOWN, makes the terminal scroll, so, USB mouse scroll could be mapped to send Alt+UP/DOWN on NeXT
Neat! Yes, I'm seeing Right Alt do the trick. OmniWeb also supports the same keys, though it scrolls a screen at a time. It's a real shame that Edit and Workspace Manager don't do the same. WM's arrow key support seems exclusively built for Browser and List modes, and is barely usable in Icon mode (left arrow goes up a level, right arrow... goes down into the first item in the list if possible; up and down do nothing.)
off topic but in Darwin 0.3 sources
/kernel-7/bsd/dev/i386/ (
https://github.com/evolver56k/Darwin-0.3/tree/master/kernel-7/bsd/dev/i386) directory there is:
PS2Mouse.h (
https://github.com/evolver56k/Darwin-0.3/blob/master/kernel-7/bsd/dev/i386/PS2Mouse.h)
PS2Mouse.m (
https://github.com/evolver56k/Darwin-0.3/blob/master/kernel-7/bsd/dev/i386/PS2Mouse.m)
PS2Mouse_Instance.m (
https://github.com/evolver56k/Darwin-0.3/blob/master/kernel-7/bsd/dev/i386/PS2Mouse_instance.m)
I don't know how different they are to the PS2Mouse driver that comes with NS 3.3.
EDIT: Apologies for this post, I just saw USB Converter, I didn't see that this was posted in the NeXT Black Hardware section :/
Quote from: pTeK on May 29, 2025, 03:20:25 AMoff topic but in Darwin 0.3 sources /kernel-7/bsd/dev/i386/ (https://github.com/evolver56k/Darwin-0.3/tree/master/kernel-7/bsd/dev/i386) directory there is:
PS2Mouse.h (https://github.com/evolver56k/Darwin-0.3/blob/master/kernel-7/bsd/dev/i386/PS2Mouse.h)
PS2Mouse.m (https://github.com/evolver56k/Darwin-0.3/blob/master/kernel-7/bsd/dev/i386/PS2Mouse.m)
PS2Mouse_Instance.m (https://github.com/evolver56k/Darwin-0.3/blob/master/kernel-7/bsd/dev/i386/PS2Mouse_instance.m)
I don't know how different they are to the PS2Mouse driver that comes with NS 3.3.
EDIT: Apologies for this post, I just saw USB Converter, I didn't see that this was posted in the NeXT Black Hardware section :/
On a related note, I've just installed this (//******************/archive/openstep/windows/apps/utils/MouseWheel.1.0.README.txt) and it works successfully on OSE, once you manually
defaults write NSGlobalDomain MouseWheelEnable YES. It includes source, so perhaps it's just a matter of swapping out the driver-specific code to bring the concept to Mach.
My Quokka arrived today - it works great with a cheap Logitech K400 wireless keyboard+trackpad and an old wireless Microsoft mouse.
It's a significant improvement over my old next mouse so I'm pretty happy, but the weird mouse acceleration that NextStep uses remains. I've installed GK Mouse Scaler and that improves the mouse handling a bit but it's still far from good, not that that's the quokka's fault!
Good product, I'd recommend it.