Hi.
I'm having trouble getting OS4.2E OSE4.1 running on Windows XP Pro (32 bit) with Service Pack 3 installed. I have tried running the binaries I.e Draw.app, TextEdit.app, InterfaceBuilder.app in compatibility mode.
Does it only run on NT4.0 and 9x?
Edit: Had wrong version of OSE4.1 originally which I was having trouble with.
Quote from: pTeK on July 14, 2025, 05:29:13 AMDoes it only run on NT4.0 and 9x?
Unlikely—I've gotten 4.1 running on Windows 2000 and Windows 10 x64, although in the latter case I haven't been able to use it as a DPS server (yet). Compatibility mode mainly affects low-hanging fruit like window skinning and color depth; usually if something works with it enabled, it also works
without it enabled.
@verdraith has some instructions here for YB 5.1; I believe the "fix for NT-based systems" is functionally equivalent to [url=
https://www.nextcomputers.org/forums/index.php?topic=5996.msg34096#msg34096]my Windows 2000 registry fixes, here (
https://www.nextcomputers.org/forums/index.php?topic=4845.msg30443#msg30443). Please let me know if you get this to work since I'd really like to see OSE running on modern Windows.
Also, for some bizarre reason, copies of OSE 4.2 have dropped off the face of the internet. (They've all been replaced with mislabeled copies of OS 4.2. I did all my experiments with OSE 4.1.) I could really use a copy of your installer! (And not just because I'm trying to compile a master database of the state of preservation all NeXT-related software.) Would you be OK with uploading it to me?
Quote from: Rhetorica on July 14, 2025, 02:39:03 PMUnlikely—I've gotten 4.1 running on Windows 2000 and Windows 10 x64, although in the latter case I haven't been able to use it as a DPS server (yet). Compatibility mode mainly affects low-hanging fruit like window skinning and color depth; usually if something works with it enabled, it also works without it enabled.
@verdraith has some instructions here (https://www.nextcomputers.org/forums/index.php?topic=4845.msg30443#msg30443) for YB 5.1; I believe the "fix for NT-based systems" is functionally equivalent to my Windows 2000 registry fixes, here (https://www.nextcomputers.org/forums/index.php?topic=5996.msg34096#msg34096). Please let me know if you get this to work since I'd really like to see OSE running on modern Windows.
Also, for some bizarre reason, copies of OSE 4.2 have dropped off the face of the internet. (They've all been replaced with mislabeled copies of OS 4.2. I did all my experiments with OSE 4.1.) I could really use a copy of your installer! (And not just because I'm trying to compile a master database of the state of preservation all NeXT-related software.) Would you be OK with uploading it to me?
Thanks
@Rhetorica I'm using the same OSE 4.1 as your tutorial on my IBM T43 but a fresh install/re-install of OSE 34.1 doesn't work. I found it weird that it would work for NT 4.0 and not XP pro.
I don't think that installing it on NTFS D: partition instead of my 1GB FAT C: partition (Which is used to transfer files to OpenStep 4.2 partition) will stop it from not running.
I will try installing WebObjects and the patches listed on the thread of
@verdraith to see if there are any missing files to get OSE 4.1 running.
I also have the Microsoft sysinternal tools installed as well e.g. procmon.exe, tcpview.exe.
Managed to get OSE 4.2 installed and running. Well everything except for the main app project builder.
I also didn't remove OSE4.1 properly either as it's still showing up as installed so something must be golden something in the registry from OSE4.2.
EDIT: (20 July 2025) Fixed typo.
Quote from: pTeK on July 19, 2025, 10:51:49 AMI also didn't remove OSE4.1 properly either as it's still showing up as installed so something must be golden in the registry from OSE4.2.
Check Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\NeXT\OPENSTEP Enterprise - you'll find two subkeys, 4.1 and 4.2. "About NeXT Software" checks this; you can just delete 4.1. (It should really be in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE but NeXT was never at the top of their game for doing things properly on Windows.)
Thank you
@Rhetorica It's working now and
About NeXT Software is only showing OSE4.2 Developer Bastion5U1.