Building a Nextstep machine

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Title: Building a Nextstep machine
Post by: MacG4 on April 15, 2007, 12:21:06 PM
Alright i have trying for the last week to get together a white box i could run nextstep 3.3 on. so far is what ive got
celeron 433mhz
128mb ram
ide panisonic cd drive
1 gig ide western digital hd

Now when i boot using the boot cd, then i load the drivers. it will continue on and see the cd drive and it says it sees the hd. but the when it gets the the point of actualling doing the install...its says no disks for install. do i need to jumper the hd, or am i missing something?

ps. i have also got a dell pcIII i could use as well
Title: Building a Nextstep machine
Post by: multi on April 15, 2007, 01:14:08 PM
Can you post the exact error? The issue I used to run into(under openstep tho..) was the install process complaing about not finding a 512byte/sector hd. And the problem was with the stock openstep 4.2 floppies, so the work around was to use a 4.1 install floppy(you cant do that tho, driverkit is different, just pointing out issues I had installing for x86).

Also, are you doing a master/master setup with the hd and cdrom or a master/slave? What drivers did you choose for the cdrom and hd? Did you do the adaptec 154x for cd and then dual ide/atapi for the hd? If youre not using scsi under x86 it's a bitch and I almost always needed to use the adaptec for my cdrom eventho I wasnt using scsi..So list what drivers, what install images, and what the error message was.
Title: Building a Nextstep machine
Post by: MacG4 on April 15, 2007, 01:37:05 PM
yeah same 512byte/sector hd error was coming up. both the cd and hd are on the same  ide channel i think(not at home now). the cd drive was reconized by using the dual ide/atapi driver and used the standard ide driver for the hd(option 5 on 2nd screen). the hd is seen before the install starts. i have an older adaptec scsi pci card i could use and then hook up an older scsi hd and go that route i guess.
btw im using an old hp brio celeron 450mhz or 433mhz/128mb ram/1gig western digital hd(ide)/panisonic cd drive(ide).
im actually using the boot cd's that someone here made, not the acutal floppy images(on floppy disks)
Title: Building a Nextstep machine
Post by: MacG4 on April 16, 2007, 11:22:22 AM
alright went home tried a few different still no luck
-tried having a scsi on a pci scsi controller card(4gig) and using the same ide cd drive. hd was reconized but the cd drive for some reason

-tried having both a scsi cd drive and scsi cd drive on the same scsi pci card, with different set scsi ids. wouldnt boot off the cd drive

im about out of ideas,i have tried all different config's and drives,etc...
Title: Building a Nextstep machine
Post by: nextchef on April 16, 2007, 02:27:48 PM
Dont you have to select the interfaces in a strange way in order to get this working.  I remember someone in here discussing how you had to load the scsi and IDE drivers in a specific sequence, and cancel and restart the install or something.  Search on the forums and you should find other discussions about this, unless I imagined it all, and then nevermind :)

Chef
Title: Building a Nextstep machine
Post by: MacG4 on April 16, 2007, 02:45:50 PM
ive tried looking online at different sites etc.. for help but nothing really fits my situation here.
Title: Building a Nextstep machine
Post by: MacG4 on April 17, 2007, 04:14:21 PM
anyone else her have any advise? im sure others have done this and run into issues
Title: Building a Nextstep machine
Post by: Nightengale on April 17, 2007, 07:02:11 PM
Yeah...it's different...for this I just used Shaw's site:

http://www.shawcomputing.net/resources/next/software/install/ns_install.html


and had to play around with master slave on the HP's ide, scroll down for the post i put up about that:

http://www.nextcomputers.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=51
Title: Building a Nextstep machine
Post by: Computolio on April 18, 2007, 02:18:16 AM
I have an I440BX motherboard with a P3-800 that I've been thinking of building into a white NeXT machine. Sound will be from a SoundBlaster 16, networking will be from a 3Com ISA ethernet card, video will come from an AGP ATI Rage Pro. An AHA-2940 SCSI card will run all the drives.

   This is all supported by both NeXTSTEP and OpenStep, right?
Title: Building a Nextstep machine
Post by: MacG4 on May 03, 2007, 11:18:43 AM
im still having issues. im using an ide hd and ide cd drive. they are both on the same ide channel. cd drive set to slave and hd set to master. they both show up in bios. then when i select the scsi driver for the cd drive like instructions say and then select the ide/secondary driver for the hd. then after that start loading everything. the hd and cd drive are detected by nextstep. then after that it say there is no disk to install nextstep on and the instal fails. any ideas?
Title: Building a Nextstep machine
Post by: Nightengale on May 08, 2007, 08:49:20 PM
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.next.hardware/search?group=comp.sys.next.hardware&q=1024&qt_g=Search+this+group

I really don't know if this will help your situation, but you can put whatever you want into the search dialog, it's helped me in the past.
Title: Building a Nextstep machine
Post by: Nightengale on May 08, 2007, 11:14:57 PM
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.next.hardware/browse_thread/thread/a3e3c8122068b6c2/264059e2a68cb4ff?lnk=gst&q=white&rnum=16#264059e2a68cb4ff

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