Some questions on late (?) 21" color display

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Title: Some questions on late (?) 21" color display
Post by: Jenne on May 01, 2007, 03:15:33 AM
Hello.

I've been searching the web on some information about my 21" NeXT color display I got along with my "new" NeXTstation Turbo Color lately. I noticed, that there seem to be several models of that 21 " display that look different.
Mine was made 1992 by Hitachi:



The major differences to other models I've seen is the placement of the brightness and contrast regulators - they are on the right, not on the left and the display bears no NeXT-logo on the front:



It seems to be a display dedicated especially for ADB hardware as the label on the back says (note that "ADB" before the serial number):



But two things keep me thinking. First of all that little white knob beneath the controls:



What is this one used for? Never seen something like that one on other old displays. In fact this display has a fan inside! I didn't notice it until I powered down the station and still heard a humming noise... Obviously I can't take a picture of that one.

Now, is there a document somewhere with the specs of this display? And does anybody knows about this knob?

Thanks again!

J
Title: Some questions on late (?) 21" color display
Post by: slomacuser on May 01, 2007, 06:13:32 AM
I think that is for "degauss".

Degaussing is the process of decreasing or eliminating an unwanted magnetic field.

Many big monitros had cooling fan inside and degauss control.
Title: Some questions on late (?) 21" color display
Post by: nextchef on May 01, 2007, 09:51:14 AM
What happens when you push the white button?  If it starts making noise and distorting the picture for a few seconds, then it is indeed a degauss function as slomacuser said.

How about a wider angle pic of your NeXT setup you have there, as I see a mono system "peeking" there on the right.

Chef
Title: Some questions on late (?) 21" color display
Post by: Jenne on May 01, 2007, 10:12:29 AM
I can't test the function of that one right now, because the ROM of the station isn't compatible with the ADB hardware - it isn't very funny watching that "network boot" all the time, but help is in sight.

Want to see some of my hardware? Hang on...

J
Title: Some questions on late (?) 21" color display
Post by: Jenne on May 01, 2007, 10:54:45 AM
Voilà:

http://www.blackmac.ch/webimages/collection/

All in working condition. There are still some machines, promotional stuff, bags, add-ons and other things waiting to be set up for presentation but that will take some time...

Enjoy!

J
Title: Some questions on late (?) 21" color display
Post by: nextchef on May 01, 2007, 01:03:52 PM
Quote from: "Jenne"Voilà:

http://www.blackmac.ch/webimages/collection/

All in working condition. There are still some machines, promotional stuff, bags, add-ons and other things waiting to be set up for presentation but that will take some time...

Enjoy!

J

Thanks for the link, and a nice collection you have there.  
I had forgotten all about those digital cameras that Apple tried to sell.  The 100 series "binocular" style ones are especially interesting, kinda resemble a laser rangefinder from a few years ago.

Chef
Title: Some questions on late (?) 21" color display
Post by: Jenne on May 01, 2007, 02:10:28 PM
Yeah indeed, strange little boxes those QuickTakes. I've been making some pictures with them recently... The difference between the 100 & 150 towards the 200 are very big, the image quality (although not very good) is much better. It's still fun messing around with them, reminds me a bit of these Lomo-boxes style :)

J
Title: Some questions on late (?) 21" color display
Post by: nextchef on May 01, 2007, 03:00:15 PM
Something else to add to the wish list .. a QuickTake 150 ..

like I need any more things on that list  :D   I will have to buy a bigger house :(

Chef
Title: Some questions on late (?) 21" color display
Post by: da9000 on May 01, 2007, 08:21:45 PM
Nice collection Jenne!
Title: Some questions on late (?) 21" color display
Post by: Jenne on May 02, 2007, 12:59:33 AM
Thanks da9000!

Maybe I'm going off-Apple a bit more some time :D

J
Title: Some questions on late (?) 21" color display
Post by: da9000 on May 02, 2007, 01:41:54 AM
Quote from: "Jenne"Thanks da9000!

Maybe I'm going off-Apple a bit more some time :D

J

Heh, no worries, these days "platform wars" on vintage machines have died away... As long as it's vintage, it's a "unite all or die" situation :D

The only wars left are Windoze vs the rest (Linux and Mac OS X), and it's not looking so good for our side... But what goes around, comes around, so I'm hopeful one day the evil "empire" will crumble and die. (note the quotes are not on evil)

But hey, don't stop collecting Mac stuff! I might have some interesting pieces for sale at some point :D
Title: Some questions on late (?) 21" color display
Post by: Jenne on May 02, 2007, 01:53:47 AM
Quote from: "da9000"But hey, don't stop collecting Mac stuff! I might have some interesting pieces for sale at some point :D

I always have an open ear for offers like these ;)

J

P.S.: still some machines lurking around here... An Apple II clone from Chechoslovakia, a 9600 witch Media 100 System, a G3 with early Rhapsody, a Quadra 700 with A/UX, Powerbook 1400 with AppleShare IP, a 8500 with some Copland stuff and with a little luck a SGI Indy soon...
Title: Some questions on late (?) 21" color display
Post by: da9000 on May 02, 2007, 03:24:39 AM
Quote from: "Jenne"
P.S.: still some machines lurking around here... An Apple II clone from Chechoslovakia, a 9600 witch Media 100 System, a G3 with early Rhapsody, a Quadra 700 with A/UX, Powerbook 1400 with AppleShare IP, a 8500 with some Copland stuff and with a little luck a SGI Indy soon...

Woa! Apple II clone?! From CZ? I wanna see that one! :)

Also, what kind of "Copland stuff" are you talking about??? Tell us more...
Title: Some questions on late (?) 21" color display
Post by: Jenne on May 02, 2007, 05:03:42 AM
Quote from: "da9000"Woa! Apple II clone?! From CZ? I wanna see that one! :)

Some pictures of that clone can be seen here:

http://www.apple2clones.com/?q=image/tid/266

This guy has the most interesting Apple II collection I've ever seen, so take a look over there, please.

Quote from: "da9000"Also, what kind of "Copland stuff" are you talking about??? Tell us more...

Nothing fancy. I've just been experimenting with Copland a bit, tried to install it, that strange debugging connection to make first steps. In fact it's been a very unstable version so I will be glad if I can take some screenshots of it without kicking the system into a complete blackout...

J
Title: Some questions on late (?) 21" color display
Post by: MacG4 on May 02, 2007, 08:38:05 AM
good luck withn copeland..i never got it booting fully
Title: Some questions on late (?) 21" color display
Post by: da9000 on May 02, 2007, 10:23:00 AM
Quote from: "Jenne"
http://www.apple2clones.com/?q=image/tid/266

This guy has the most interesting Apple II collection I've ever seen, so take a look over there, please.

WOW!  I must confess complete ignorance at the sight of this many clones! I had no idea there were so many Apple II* clones! Why the f$?@ did I not see one until this day? Not that the original Apple looked bad or anything :)
WOW. Crazy... I bet the Woz must be feeling really good when he sees a sight like this, with so many copies of his work!

Quote from: "Jenne"
Nothing fancy. I've just been experimenting with Copland a bit, tried to install it, that strange debugging connection to make first steps. In fact it's
J

Is this a leaked copy? Where did you guys get it? What system, if any, does it run on?

Cheers

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