Title: NeXTSTEP 3.3 PPC iMac
Post by: noah on July 13, 2007, 06:20:19 PM
Post by: noah on July 13, 2007, 06:20:19 PM
I have an iMac G5 and a recently obtained copy of NS 3.3. Can someone help me to get some sort of Emulator software running with NS? I'm desperate!
Title: Re:NeXTSTEP 3.3 PPC iMac
Post by: vachouse on July 14, 2007, 03:59:23 AM
Post by: vachouse on July 14, 2007, 03:59:23 AM
Try GuestPC.
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Title: NeXTSTEP 3.3 PPC iMac
Post by: noah on July 14, 2007, 07:06:49 AM
Post by: noah on July 14, 2007, 07:06:49 AM
I really don't want to buy anything. I already own a copy of VirtualPC 7, which I think I've heard doesn't work, what about QEMU/Q?
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.3 PPC iMac
Post by: vachouse on July 14, 2007, 08:00:23 AM
Post by: vachouse on July 14, 2007, 08:00:23 AM
NEXTSTEP does not run under VPC6 nor 7.
I do not know for sure if QEMU can host NEXTSTEP.
Anyway it is unacceptably slow in PPC.
The vendor says NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP run in GuestPC.
I do not know for sure if QEMU can host NEXTSTEP.
Anyway it is unacceptably slow in PPC.
The vendor says NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP run in GuestPC.
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.3 PPC iMac
Post by: noah on July 15, 2007, 07:14:09 AM
Post by: noah on July 15, 2007, 07:14:09 AM
I have an i386 box running Linux, is there an emulator that runs on top of linux for NS? (I know VPC2004 works, but I don't have any money for Windows)
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.3 PPC iMac
Post by: noah on July 17, 2007, 07:12:33 AM
Post by: noah on July 17, 2007, 07:12:33 AM
Alright so I got NS 3.3 installed on Q for the Mac, and I got all the way up to the boot and the mouse doesn't work, is it possible to get the buslink mouse patches to Q?
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.3 PPC iMac
Post by: kronoman on July 17, 2007, 08:36:35 AM
Post by: kronoman on July 17, 2007, 08:36:35 AM
Also, regarding emulators for Linux, there's Qemu, and also VMware and Parallels. Both of the latter are non-free, but someone could build a working OPENSTEP/NeXTSTEP image in VMware workstation, then you could run it with the free VMware player. This would be legally copasetic if you have the actual NS/OS media, I think.
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.3 PPC iMac
Post by: noah on July 20, 2007, 06:09:54 AM
Post by: noah on July 20, 2007, 06:09:54 AM
Does anyone have any ideas? I've heard VPC6 doesn't work with the G4, and now I don't know of any other options! Any ways to get NS to run? Thanks!
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.3 PPC iMac
Post by: slomacuser on July 20, 2007, 07:17:43 AM
Post by: slomacuser on July 20, 2007, 07:17:43 AM
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.3 PPC iMac
Post by: noah on July 22, 2007, 09:58:15 AM
Post by: noah on July 22, 2007, 09:58:15 AM
Is there a tutorial, I can't find the right HD drivers (yes the virtual HD in VPC6 is fixed size)
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.3 PPC iMac
Post by: slomacuser on July 22, 2007, 12:33:15 PM
Post by: slomacuser on July 22, 2007, 12:33:15 PM
Here is the manual for VPC 5 but works with 6 too. I made mine Open Step runing by this manual. I do not remember the web page anyway I saved the PDF.
http://users.volja.net/macuser/OpenStepunderVPC.zip
http://users.volja.net/macuser/OpenStepunderVPC.zip
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.3 PPC iMac
Post by: vachouse on August 03, 2007, 09:12:41 AM
Post by: vachouse on August 03, 2007, 09:12:41 AM
Quote from: "slomacuser"Here is the manual for VPC 5 but works with 6 too.From my own experience, NEXTSTEP causes random segmentation fault when it is run in VPC6 on G4 Mac. This is, I believe, due to the change of MMU emulation from VPC5 to VPC6. VPC5's Virtual Switch does not run in Panther. But there is a work around: start VPC6 first to load the kernel extension that provides Virtual Switch, then quit VPC6 and start VPC5. VPC5 can make use of the Kext loaded by VPC6 and its Virtual Switch works flawlessly.
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.3 PPC iMac
Post by: vachouse on August 03, 2007, 09:23:05 AM
Post by: vachouse on August 03, 2007, 09:23:05 AM
Quote from: "noah"I have an i386 box running Linux, is there an emulator that runs on top of linux for NS? (I know VPC2004 works, but I don't have any money for Windows)Emulators on i386 will be too slow. The only OS usable on it would be Win3.1/MSDOS6. Instead, you can run NEXTSTEP directly on your i386 box with right video card and LAN card. It is meant for that. Linux? Run it in your favorite emulator.
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.3 PPC iMac
Post by: neozeed on August 06, 2007, 10:14:36 PM
Post by: neozeed on August 06, 2007, 10:14:36 PM
Quote from: "noah"I have an i386 box running Linux, is there an emulator that runs on top of linux for NS? (I know VPC2004 works, but I don't have any money for Windows)
Qemu works great. My patches are available here for 0.9.0
http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?t=3912
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.3 PPC iMac
Post by: Venture37 on August 18, 2007, 06:47:59 PM
Post by: Venture37 on August 18, 2007, 06:47:59 PM
OPENSTEP works fine on VPC 7.02!
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.3 PPC iMac
Post by: vachouse on August 23, 2007, 11:37:56 AM
Post by: vachouse on August 23, 2007, 11:37:56 AM
Quote from: "Venture37"OPENSTEP works fine on VPC 7.02!
Did you install OPENSTEP in VPC 7.0.2 from scratch, or migrate disk image installed in an earlier version of VPC?
Can you use network?
I used a disk image of NEXTSTEP 3.3 installed in VPC 5 to boot in VPC 7.0.2 and found error messages related to EIDE disk access in the boot phase. If there were any chance that NEXTSTEP runs in VPC 7, the above error should have been caused by something like the change of IO address, which, I think, is very unlikely. Then it discourages me to install NS from scratch in VPC 7.
Title: NeXTSTEP 3.3 PPC iMac
Post by: Venture37 on August 31, 2007, 04:43:54 PM
Post by: Venture37 on August 31, 2007, 04:43:54 PM
fresh install of 7.0 then updated.
http://www.geeklan.co.uk/?p=46
http://www.geeklan.co.uk/?p=46